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    Every rapture position is new

    The dead in Christ are raised from the dead as humans. THEN THEY ARE RAPTURED. WHEN do they receive their glorified bodies?
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    Every rapture position is new

    Appointed. Obviously not mandated as the bible declares. Enoch Elijah Those raptured alive in 1 thes 4.
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Incorrect. The 144000 are declared as first fruits in the Bible. First fruits points to harvest. Main Harvest follows first fruits. So the 144k is a very small section of the Jews that will be saved. 144k are harvested in rev 14 Main harvest of the Jews is Rev 14:14
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    Every rapture position is new

    Enoch Elijah Never died At the rapture, In 1 cor, it says "we will changed." The living receive glorified bodies. The dead in Christ are raised ,and those living beings that come to life, receive glorified bodies. Nope...but creative try on your part. Just incorrect. Hebrews 11 5 By faith...
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    Jesus is God

    Many, many years ago, possibly in the 60s, or the 70s, watch tower erroneously inserted "a god" into John chapter one. In the foot notes of the watchtower Bible, they quoted AT Robinson as the source, for a suppose, superior translation, claiming that AT Robinson, who was a Greek expert...
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    Every rapture position is new

    Enoch Elijah Never died At the rapture, In 1 cor, it says "we will changed." The living receive glorified bodies. The dead in Christ are raised ,and those living beings that come to life, receive glorified bodies. In both instances the living receive glorified bodies.
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    Jesus is God

    Get you a Greek interlinear. Watchtower false doctrine inserted the "a". And made "God" into "god" Pretty ignorant of them since Jesus is the creator of all things visible and invisible.
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    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    Sounds preterists. I am not of that position. Never will be. We are a galaxy apart.
  9. rebuilder 454

    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    I am incorporating what you are saying. Jesus said your verses. That is the difference. It's OK. I totally understand WHY you ignore the companion verses. THEN it says what you need it to say. I will await your personal baloney to diffuse the bible. You will not, and can not address the...
  10. rebuilder 454

    Jesus is God

    Ok Have a nice day. I will stick to the bible.
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    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    Instead of demonizing in desperation, just talk man to man. Now...WHO EXACTLY IS TAKEN???? ANSWER PRECISELY. WE don't need demonizing of members.
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    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    THEN, JESUS SAYS half taken, half left BEFORE THE FLOOD. Your doctrine of omission has left you in LA LA land. You can not, due to shame, of all that false investment, in a false doctrine, quote the context of "those taken" as "before the flood." Instead you try on a false scenario of "all...
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    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    How many times have you omitted the context? 100 times? ......and you still omit it and say " I leave out nothing" That my friend us INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE.
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    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    Noah GATHERED FIRST. BEFORE any such other gathering. Postrib doctrine "Oh...THE WICKED are always gathered first " I just can not believe the destination of false doctrine. That Post tribulation rapture doctrine, has carried those adherents into the desert and left them there.
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    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    How many times have You been called out on this issue of leaving out "before the flood"? The setting were Noah is gathered into the Ark. The setting were one is taken and 1 is left. How many times have you been called out on this omission that you refuse to address ?
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    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    Then 1/2 are not taken. All are taken. You painted yourself into a corner. Once you used a strict analogy, there is no Armageddon, because now you have 8 christians saved, and earth's entire population destroyed, while 8 Christians are Miles above earth in the sky. Jesus used a partial...
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    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    The Bible depicts those taken as 1/2 of a group. The Bible doesn't just haphazdly throw something out there. So what group is it that half taken from? What is that group in question? So we can eliminate Earth population.... Because that group of people ( earth's population), is never half...
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    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    Again You leave out Jesus words "before the flood" setting ,and Noah gathered before the flood, and those taken and those left behind are depicted in the before the flood setting. Then you get all mad at being challenged by Jesus.
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    Trump's EVIL regime ....this is NOT the way a so-called Christian nation treats people!!

    You remind me of me. We have similar thinking patterns.
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    Trump's EVIL regime ....this is NOT the way a so-called Christian nation treats people!!

    I had a similar experience to Paul The apostle when I got saved God met me supernaturally. He came to me in the form of a whirl wind. I will never forget it. It was after I got saved that God began to do many supernatural things in my life. But my experience as actually "beyond". Because when...