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  1. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Not doing your homework. Our back and forth is over your inability to investigate a clear sound doctrine. By me doing YOUR investigation, just solidifies your problem of no desire to understand what "took captivity captive" means, what Jesus told the thief on the cross entailed, what the lesson...
  2. rebuilder 454

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    We are in "the times of the gentiles" The fullness is just that. The end of the GATHERING OF THEM as well as their time and opportunity is over, as well as the gentile bride is ready to and gets harvested. Now God turns to plowing his Covenant people. Fulness of Gentiles and times of them...
  3. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    Totally off. It says it is Jesus. Then you present the angels gathering OUT OF THE KINGDOM AFTER THE MIL.
  4. rebuilder 454

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    QUOTE """You are cross contaminating the fullness of the Gentiles with the times of the Gentiles. Not the same thing.""" Never said it or went there. We are in the times of the Gentiles. Fulness and complete are the same thing. My post said "times of the Gentiles COMPLETED."
  5. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    QUOTE """ You may 'tag' me with all the words you want, but apparently you're an empty vessel that makes a lot of noise when pushed over."""" SMH You little hot head. You have no idea the uninformed fool you are making of yourself. Stay unlearned. It seems to be your banner of late. Just...
  6. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    It is amazing your lack of interest in that dynamic. What we see here is called "condemnation prior to investigation" We all have fallen into that trap. But yours is especially sick because you don't even try to get knowledge. That teaching is ALL OVER THE INTERNET. TIME WILL TELL IF YOU...
  7. rebuilder 454

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Hopefully at some point you will investigate tge patriarchs in paradise who recieved the gospel message after Jesus was crucified and descended to hades. Paradise being adjacent to hades. Those same patriarchs were RESSURRECTED ALONG WITH Jesus. They are in heaven now as FIRSTFRUITS of the...
  8. rebuilder 454

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    I agree. I will never understand why and how hyperpauline doctrine exists. Once embraced, here comes the other ridiculous baggage
  9. rebuilder 454

    Magpies peck out eyes of people in Australia

    Here in the USA we have rattlesnakes. I am old school and we kill everyone we see. I've noticed since the advent of YouTube, that people cuddle rattlesnakes. And they say such sweet nice things over them and feel sorry for them. And they have a capture and release mentality for their precious...
  10. rebuilder 454

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    My focus is vs14. All that other reaping and destroying is also another time frame. Could be years after the vs 14 gathering of the Jews.
  11. rebuilder 454

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Sickle is a harvest tool. Rev 14;14 is the covenant jew gathering. (Gomer in Hosea.) The 144k ETHNIC JEWS are in heaven in the First few verses of revelation fourteen. main harvest always follows first fruits. If you read Romans chapter eleven, you will see that the Jewish covenant people are...
  12. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    QUOTE """Colossians 1: 18. And He is the Head of the body, the church(Jew and Gentile believers): who is the beginning, the firstborn(firstfruit) from the dead((resurrection); that in all things He might have the preeminence. There's no patriarchs mentioned as the firstborn or firstfruit from...
  13. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You lied when you call ANYONE a heretic over non essentials. You think heaven is on the edge of their seat hoping you get end times sorted out.???? So yes please stop lying about us who challenge you. Helfire is not my portion. Stop lying please.
  14. rebuilder 454

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Rev 14:14 is tge gathering of the Jews by Jesus. In Rev 14, the first few verses, the 144k FIRSTFRUITS ethnic Jews are in heaven. Main harvest Jews follows. That is Rev 14:14. ....and yes Rev 19 is the second coming in power and great glory to do battle. No sickle. As mat 24 also agrees (...
  15. rebuilder 454

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The uttermost part of earth is the atmosphere. We have 1) heaven 2 ) four winds 3) uttermost part of earth ( atmosphere). So no, no smoking gun one liners from your workbook. Pretrib rapture fits all those verses perfectly.
  16. rebuilder 454

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Nope. The First fruit Jews are in heaven at the beginning of rev chapter fourteen. Any time you see first fruits It refers to harvest, THEN the main body of Jews must follow after first fruits. WE SEE IN revelation 14, verse fourteen, the main body of Jews as harvested by Jesus holding a...
  17. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    ..and there you go! Celebrating not looking for Jesus? ....well. ok.
  18. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    They see us as weak and cowardly. They see themselves as powerful overcomers and so tough as to go through the gt. ....but then there is the bible. Which has them as foolish and us as wise. They will get their prophetic wish and deal with the ac They are NOT IN ANY WAY looking for his...