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LOF and GWTJ are both after the mil. Mat 13 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

1) it says it is Jesus. 2) you are comparing Apples to oranges. Your verse and Matthew is talking about after the millennium at the great white throne judgment, there is a separation of the inhabitants of Earth and the tares are bound up and thrown into the Lake of fire. So you kinda don't...

QUOTE "IOW, you want to be left behind!" Matt 25 the foolish are left behind. You just testified to your fate.

This end times debate is no contest. ANY postribs out there that can talk civilly????? Let's go. Toe to toe. No additives No reframing verses. No one liner" ha ha ha my verse out of context voids your 10 verses deal" No name calling Show me your interpretation of my doctrines verses. (They...

rebuilder 454 said: You don't get it. If all take the mark then there are ONLY THOSE REFUSING that are left with no mark. Those refusing are martyred. Freds reply: "You don't get it from what am testifying and quoting, you're just going off and returning slow in learning, i understand."...

rebuilder 454 said: "Jesus said BEFORE THE FLOOD. JESUS SAID BEFORE SODOM BURNED You don't get it?????? You don't know what "before" means?" Freds reply: "It's best you enjoy your false pertrib rapture, for many have believed in this and number of false messiahs have lead these unlearned and...

QUOTE ""How silly one can get, anti-Christ's appearance and reign over the world, marks the start of the Great Tribulation. Therefore, your pretrib rapture is a 'bogus' of a heretic."" I don't dispute whatever you want to call it. If you want it to be "the great trib", then I can work around...

Amazing you claim I am a heretic and your doctrine deal is way off!!!! The FIRSTFRUITS ARE Jesus and the patriarchs who were in paradise under the earth. Stop lying about your brothers while not knowing your Bible.

doctrox said: """Then it should be easy for you to post scripture affirming your claim, but you can't because there isn't any. Yes, "in the bible." The Holy Bible is what you need to be reading, rather than the opinions of other men. Your post contains NOT ONE scripture reference.""" Maybe...

Jesus sitting on a cloud I. Rev 14 is not Jesus on a white horse in Rev 19. Hard to wiggle out of that. "One coming" debunked solidly

WHERE is Rev 19, the 2nd Coming, displayed in the bible, or referred to, in scripture, BESIDES the one in Rev 19 second coming reference? It appears you do not believe the second coming is on white horses.

Postribs have said for years " the wicked are ALWAYS GATHERED FIRST. Then I found 2 verses blowing their theory away. Destroyed. Nothing left. Kinda like the Darby deal that is yet another bogus " power point" All postribber power points are nothing burgers. The amazement is , I sank your...

Rev 14 is your postrib rapture. You have been shown 100 times mat 24 gathering is by angels in heaven. ...and yet you STILL TRANSPOSE that into the gathering on earth of 1 thes 4. Invincible ignorance. " condemnation prior to investigation"

BEFORE THE FLOOD. What part of "before , before ,before, there is eating, drinking, normal life,commerce, everyday life,planning for the future" do you NOT UNDERSTAND?????? "BEFORE"? "BEFORE" WATCH AND BE READY "BEFORE" NORMAL LIFE SETTING " BEFORE" Is THE COMING (rapture) AS JESUS SAID. You...

Then when is the second coming of Rev 19 on white horses in power and glory. There is a pretrib gathering in 1 thes 4, acts 1, Matt 24, Matt 25, the last supper dialogue,the 2 escape verses, and others. Then a rapture of the jews midtrib ( or some say postrib prewrath...whatever). Then comes...

Unpack 1 thes 4, then Rev 19, then Rev 14, then all the rapture verses. Nothing of your doctrine fits all that. You believe there is a rapture....check You believe all those verses I just showed you support " one coming "...nope, in no possible way. That is the thing...while you are centered...

Ironically it is they that stay. ( the foolish) They (postribs) claim to stay. They position themselves as foolish.

That does not work. The aod is in the middle of the 70th week. The 7 yr trib ....then the aod 3.5 yrs into the trib.

Way too deep for them They deal in single sentences. Any anology is way way way over all of their heads. Come to think of it, have you ever seen one of them bring forward ANY ANALOGY?