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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    The crown explanation you have put forth is weak. "Julius Caesar's crown is called a laurel wreath or corona triumphalis. It's a wreath made from bay leaves (Laurus nobilis) and was worn as a symbol of victory and importance. " The crown Jesus wore was imagery of the king of the Jews. He was...
  2. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    you are actually talking to amil spirit. A totally different bible.
  3. rebuilder 454

    MESSAGE TO THE SEVEN CHURCHES SARDIS

    The pretrib rapture
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Ahem...Rev 14:14 is not the rapture of 1 thes4, nor can it possibly be the second coming of Rev 19. ( make you a file named " the impossibility and goofiness of the " one coming" lie) Subtitle it ...(the verses those teachers failed to mention) So not only are you wrong, you have a doctrine that...
  5. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    It this late hour so many are clueless as to what is being set up to happen. The times of the Gentiles ending is upon us big time. The rapture, the temple rebuilt, the left behinds slaughtered and then onward from there. Deception Un paralled in earth's history. The first is last....last is...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    If the bride /groom component is back burnered, the panoramic picture is lost. Same with the 3 targets. 1 the gathering of the bride 2 the gathering/ purchase of Gomer 3 the throne of David re established. Hardly anyone has the knowledge of the central cores of end times.
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Way too much labeling that does not make any difference, unless we need some verse modified. Like Doug said; call the 7 yr period most anything you want. But the AOD happens in the middle of A SPECIFIC BRACKET OF TIME. PERIOD. I call that 7 years; the gt.. the trib... Jacob's trouble. All fit...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Good idea. I am old Been debating end times for almost 50 years. "The wrath " "Prewrath" "Great trib as the last half".....Are all modern inventions. Pure confusion and rabbit trals. My view is "panoramic" and "end times " in its entirety. Not brackets that do not fit the panoramic picture...
  9. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    I would say so. He comes as a world leader. Takes power right away. His job ( main job I should say) is to wipe the Christians from the face of the earth.
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    White horse rider is the world leader. Nimrod bow. A crown A Messiah A conquer...(of Christians.) THAT begins the trib. Jacob's TROUBLE IS 7 YEARS LONG. the first captivity was 70 years. (Babylon)
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    QUOTE ""Who’s Paul talking about? Not ethnic Jews — Gentiles being grafted into the covenant by faith."" Wow I can tell you right now you have a severe compression problem. Now you have the Gentiles cast off of the branch, and cut off for the sake of the Gentile church, but those Gentiles...
  12. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Quote "The ones taken were the wicked. Noah remained. You got it completely backwards" Jesus said they are taken before the flood. You claim is impossible,( but I know, that scoff field spirit is guiding you). 1) the mark of the beast would have to have been implemented. Plus Jesus said half...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    That tells me you must be replacement theology. The anti semetic christian error that is floating around
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    It was the devil in the desert that twisted verses. Kinda like how you and EVERY postribber does to the following. Acts 1 like manner. Rev 14:14 Your "AFTER THE TRIBULATION" OF MATT 24 ( Not a single one of you cab actually READ) Go back and read it r e a l s l o w w w. Angels gather ..NOT...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Quote "- now you are trusting the words of Christ instead of men." Says the man that has his no 1 PILLAR that ALL YOUR DOCTRINE is based on is DEAD ANCIENTS WITH LIMITED REVELATION. YOU actually celebrate your origins from DEAD MEN. Oh the irony!!!!!
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You keep going to scoff field land. Stop all the juvenile scoffing. I know you can't because that scoffing spirit in you invents all that "Disney land mess" You have actually pulled that scoffing goofiness for so long it is in your DNA, and you can't controll it. You want to be an adult some...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    QUOTE ""Let’s get something straight: There is only ONE return of Christ — not two. Hebrews 9:28 says it plainly: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for Him shall He appear the second time…” Second time. Not third. Not secretly first and publicly...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    AND PLEASE GOC, Try real hard to put aside the silliness and address the verses you have never considered. Ahem, scoffed can not help you. It is a little fairy tale blanket that will never cover up postribber omissions and changes
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Sad that your teachers taught you nothing about the purpose of the trib The 2 covenants Harvest Multiple comings. The bide and groom dimension. The marriage supper. The betrothal. And tons more you are seeing from me for the first time. Stuff you have no idea about.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Scofield can't help you. How ironic that your doctrine ( you celebrate) comes from dead church fathers and aligns (of course) with the catholic church...complete with DARBY,DARBY , DARBY, DARBY..SCOFIELD, SCOFIELD SCOFIELD SCOFIELD, SCOFIELD SCOFIELD!! Yep your doctrine is from men as you say...