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  1. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Keep dreaming. Your dependence on dead ancients is shaky
  2. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    I know. Amil says there is no antichrist. Amil is a partial Bible belief system.
  3. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Amazing the path that a doctrine takes when "the dead in Christ rise At the rapture" is OMITTED
  4. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    I guess all that is to attempt support for amil? You seem like a very decent and Christian man but all that amill stuff needs to go with that guy named spiritual israelite and his three or four buddies
  5. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    OK I am not into that amil stuff. That doctrine is way on out there and history disproves it
  6. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Dispensationalism, as a system, results in a premillennial interpretation of Christ’s second coming and usually a pretribulational interpretation of the rapture. To summarize, dispensationalism is a theological system that emphasizes the literal interpretation of Bible prophecy, recognizes a...
  7. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    AT Robinson a prominent Greek language expert, had only an office. Under your template, he is a joke huh? I have found Quotes from Jesus Christ himself and it does not satisfy anything with supporting your doctrine. it is Jesus Christ himself that proclaimed and declared the pre tribulation...
  8. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    rev 13 1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his...
  9. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    no the antichrist arrives as the white horse rider at the start of the tribulation period of seven years he begins the mark in the forehead right away, of everyone on the face of the earth. rev 6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one...
  10. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the...
  11. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    ....your deal has always been omission and change of God's word. Just keep believing lies. Keep not studying your Bible. Jesus is rebuking those posrtrib false teachers when he invokes Daniel. You should consider verses that ruin your doctrine. The AC kills all refusing the mark. You really...
  12. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Now you and all the anti Darby obsessed followers can learn your deal is a lie, and has been for years. It is you that invokes Darby and imagines you are actually addressing anything. You are indirectly saying you base your erroneous doctrine on dead ancients. You are basing YOUR ENTIRE...
  13. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Your little tantrum without addressing my challenges. Scofield has failed you again. ....but lives rent free in your brain. That is torment. Your torment is from that dead ancients building block. You invoked them, so now your make believe enemy ghost ,"Scofield, is haunting you You have...
  14. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Lol Yeah right. Who wouldda thought that a Jewish harvest follows Jewish firstfuits.. I forgot to add that to the list of voided verses by your doctrine. There are 2 more as you just pointed out. 1) the 144k ethnic Jews from ethnic Jewish tribes, numbered 2 different ways,from SPECIFIC TRIBES...
  15. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    That tells me you are a mill. . At the rapture, only the dead and Christ are raised. So we have yet another totally messed up view, that God's word quite handily, and totally ,blows out of water. Ahem...at the GWTJ the entire earth's population is raised from the dead
  16. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Tons of believers "in Christ" have an edited , modified bible. You yourself thrive on omissions and changes to the bible. "Like manner" is changed Rev14 is changed Romans 11 is changed "Before the flood " is changed "All take the mark" is changed "The innumerable number in heaven" is changed...
  17. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The scriptures testify different than your doctrine. Rev 14:14 is neither the rapture of the church, nor is it the second coming of Rev 19. I have asked tons of post tribbers to unpack revelation, 14 verse 14 and the 10 virgin parable. none of them have been able to unpack either one of them. It...
  18. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Rev 14 is the Jewish harvest to heaven. Fordtfruits in heaven at Phoebe of revelation chapter 14. and then shortly after is the main Jewish harvest with Jesus sitting on a cloud.
  19. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    No. Because Christ is the firstfruits those Afterward are main harvest. You can't have 2 firstfruits. I just shake my head at what doctrine does to bible comprehension. So now you are chosen out of Jewish tribes. For 40 years of study I have always read and understood Jesus returns postrib. I...
  20. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    "the pre tribulation rapture doctrine began with Darby" Totally 100% debunked.