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  1. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Yes "then" is after. The alive believers are gathered AFTER the dead in Christ are resurrected. You invented " 10 months later" Totally invented.
  2. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Quote " those singing in Rev 15 are ethnic Jews" Well, maybe reread it. 2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the...
  3. rebuilder 454

    The 6th seal great tribulation

    apparently, you and I are the only ones that read Daniel. some just make up a time frame ,and defend it without scripture
  4. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    ...then...we which are alive and remain, meet THEM in the air. Ahem..same thing as "He started the car ,Then put it in gear." You inserted "He put it in gear a week later"
  5. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Practically harvested at the same time depending on weather. But barley slightly ahead of the wheat. From "grace communion website",: “Wheat ripens later than barley and, according to the Gezer Manual, was harvested during the sixth agricultural season, yrh qsr wkl (end of April to end of...
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    The Coming Rapture

    Spring barley grown in the Northern Hemisphere is typically harvested in July or August while winter barley is harvested in the April or May. Winter wheat is planted in the fall and goes dormant as it overwinters in the field. When spring arrives, it grows rapidly and is ready for harvest in...
  7. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    One of the most thorough exposition on the 70th week No student of eschatology should omit this teaching. Without a understanding of Daniel, and the purpose of the trib,as well as a study on the bride, end times will be misunderstood
  8. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Everybody agrees the dead rise first. Those alive neet them in the air. The rapture is the gathering of the bride. 1 these 4 Matt 25 Matt 24 Rev19 Without that understanding, which you never include, you will never get end times correct (Taking a line from your replies)
  9. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    How did the innumerable number get to heaven? (A harvest so large nobody can count them.) What feast depicts them? Remember it is declared that the times of the Gentiles must be completed. Why must they be completed? IOW THE END OF the church age. The Gentile bride ( book of Ruth) Naomi being...
  10. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    1) you put a gap in there that is not there. 2) the dead in Christ that are currently in the grave are raised at the rapture of 1 thes 4. 3) Jesus brings the " 'dead' spirits" (without bodies), ALREADY IN HEAVEN, with him at the rapture. 4) it is as if you totally miss what is happening at the...
  11. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Start a thread on Rev 14:14. Ask postribs to unpack it. They can't. Rev14:14 is the nuclear Bomb. Blows a hole in postribber doctrine so big, a bus could drive through it
  12. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    No They meet the resurrected in the air immediately. The rapture is the gathering of the bride. Dead in Christ along with the living.
  13. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    I told him that also, but you were more eloquent.
  14. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Show me one postrib rapture verse against my 10 or so pretrib rapture verses. Any one of the pretrib rapture verses destroys ANY hope of a supposed postrib rapture theory. Try and find a verse supporting your view.
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    The Coming Rapture

    The Gt is 2 parts. That is a no brainer. In school the second semester is not the first, but neither cancels out the other. In pregnancy , the first trimester is not the third, and never cancels the third. Have 2 timeframes in the gt does not remove the length of it. You are...once...
  16. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    When it says "they meet the Lord in the air ", what do you do with that?
  17. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Only half the church is raptured. According to Jesus.
  18. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Amen the pretrib rapture doctrine 100% believes that and it fits like a glove.
  19. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    When it says "ALL TAKE THE MARK every man woman and child" where are you in that dynamic??? You either take it and ,as you say , "go through the trib" or you refuse it and get martyred. So how on earth is that postrib doctrine e even possible???? When it says that power is given to the...
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    The Coming Rapture

    Nope. The group meets in the air. Both the dead in Christ, and those raptured alive. ALL go to heaven. The 2 harvests, ( barley &wheat ) are the rapture and later the innumerable number beheaded by the AC. (After the innumerable number harvest, the TIMES OF THE GENTILES ( the church) is...