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  1. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    It says "see him coming in power and great glory" Rev 19. ....Yes Acts 1 ....not at all Rev 14....nope...it says sitting on a cloud. If he is sitting on a cloud, can He be seen from earth? Probably not. Again the game changer is the bride and groom. Rapture is at midnight in parts of the Earth...
  2. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    QUOTE "I don't see 7 years of tribulation for the world. I see a 7 year period of time for Israel that will begin when a covenant with many is made. I see the great tribulation begins in the midst of that week when the AOD is set up." The 4 horsemen kick it off. It is worldwide. Have you read...
  3. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Quote "However, the coming of Jesus in Matt 24 occurs at the 6th seal and not in Revelation 19" The sixth seal is fast forward to the second coming in Rev 19. Set Rev 19 in stone and follow the dots. Don't set earthquakes and sky in stone, then change matt 24 and acts 1.
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    QUOTE "Whenever Jesus shows up with His angels it will be in power and glory. Whether it's at the 6 seal after the tribulation or in the 7th seal at the end of wrath" NO rapture verse has Jesus returning in power and great glory. EVERY rapture verse is normal life, peacetime, everyday life and...
  5. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Why do claim I need Acts 1 changed? I don't. You never change scripture. Acts 1 does occur at either rapture. Jesus REMAINS IN THE CLOUDS. He returns in like manner after Armageddon when He sets His feet on the mount of Olives. QUOTE "Why do claim I need Acts 1 changed? I don't. You never...
  6. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    I think like manner is the rapture. Not the second coming
  7. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Nope nope nope. The impossible hurdle, which you've already been shown many times, is that there is only one place Jesus returns in power and great glory. that coming is in revelation. 19. And I believe it's why you need acts Chapter one changed into a different "like manner" than what is...
  8. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Yep Blew his mind. All he could do was personal attack. Humorous actually.
  9. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Wow I don't see how anyone can take you seriously. Just pathetic
  10. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes...
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    The Coming Rapture

    lol Maye take off those cumbersome low vision goggles and learn the extremity of earth is its atmosphere. You really did not know that earth is made up of the planet and its atmosphere? News flash. The atmosphere IS the OUTERMOST PART OF THE EARTH. ...and yes, It is difficult to take someone...
  12. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    """I just understand that barley is not harvested the same time as wheat.""" Barley ....1 these 4, last supper dialogue, acts 1 " like manner", mat 25 virgins parable, mat 24 "one taken/left", Wheat... the innumerable number (billions?) In heaven DURING THE GT. FRUIT... Jews.
  13. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    QUOTE "When the Lord comes for the Church He will be visible ONLY to Christians. When the Lord comes for the second harvest at the 6th seal, all eyes will see the coming of the Lord. All will go to heaven for the marriage supper during the seventh seal wrath of God." IT does not say that. It...
  14. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    You da man!!! Carry on !!!! You really showed em!!!! Your greatness in your brochure is impressive!!!
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Here is Rev 6 The sixth seal 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15...
  16. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    "THE LIGHT'S" ENTIRE eschatology is in :"discerning" a strict adherence to definitions. 1) mat 24 " power and great glory " has to be before the "wrath" ( which is simply mid trib of the 7 yr trib of daniel) 2) Rev 14: 14 is the second coming in power and great Glory. 3)" like manner" of Acts 1...
  17. rebuilder 454

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Well if you leave out Daniel then you can do what you do. You make Jesus coming in power and great Glory into Jesus coming in Rev 14. I suppose Rev 19 is not Jesus coming in power and great glory.
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    The Coming Rapture

    The "uttermost part of the earth" is earth's atmosphere. ( the reason it is "heaven" and "angels" is because it is angels , not Jesus, gathering saints , FROM HEAVEN, to the white horses in Rev 19. But even if you use "earth" as your point, there are 2 "heaven" references to your one pinpoint...
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    The Coming Rapture

    Kind of funny how postribbers resort to extra biblical authors to try to find some desperate smoking gun against us. When in fact, it is they that point to dead men of the early church that they claim have the correct perspective because they were the first church. The catholics make the same...
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    The Coming Rapture

    Those left behind ones are the wheat harvest....as I have already pointed out. The rapture is tge barley. The wheat processed through a "tribulum"...(tribulation.) Fits like a glove. No need to insert a delay at the rapture that is NOT there.