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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    ...and yet you have 2 second comings to earth. One at your 6th seal interpretation, and another at Rev 19. Like I said before Rev 19 does not fit your scenario.
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Never believed that or said it. Try and answer sensibly Ok I get it.i reread your post. You can not honestly debate me, so you go comic.
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    Nope Rev 19 setting is heaven. The white Horse arrival ends the wrath and is the second coming ,with the saints...in direct defiance to what you are saying. Saints in heaven gathered to the white horses as Jesus declared in mat 24 after the trib and wrath( which JESUS called the GT) You are...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    The beast is thrown in the LOF AFTER the white horses coming. It seems you are placing every "42 months"(1290 days) spoken of as starting and stopping the exact same day. 1) is Daniel's 7 years off the table? 2) is every "pretrib setting rapture" off the table? 3) are you saying the rapture of...
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    The Rapture is About to Happen, Here's Why--Rapture?

    QUOTE from writer "Look brother, there is only a "FIRST RESURRECTION" Resurrection from the DEAD "FIRST" NOT AN AIRLIFT OF THE LIVING FIRST...and then the "SECOND" DEATH. There is no secret anything in between. Making your blessed hope an event like a honeymoon is like making a "Saturday" or a...
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    The Rapture is About to Happen, Here's Why--Rapture?

    Look in a mirror and say this; "STOP and THINK, When you deny exactly what God said or add to them what HE never said: You are calling the LORD Jesus Christ a liar. You are calling the Apostles liars. Do you want to be judged this way??? THINK TRUTH = JESUS says: "Thy word is TRUTH"" Maybe it...
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    The Rapture is About to Happen, Here's Why--Rapture?

    It is the pretrib rapture quotes the Dave rejects. Ask him about it. Watch him modify, deflect, attack any challenger personally, or flat out omit the verses. Jesus talking in mat 24,25,and at the last supper No brainer what Jesus said. How can you question it?
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    Jewish only harvest in Rev 14:14. Rev 14:1 is JEWISH firstfruits. 14:14 is JEWISH main harvest Study harvest. Firstfruits ALWAYS precedes main harvest. ( Jewish first fruits with a jewish main harvest) Rev19 is the second coming on white horses with no gathering except the elect gathered in...
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    The second coming is the white horse's in Rev 19. How could anyone possibly miss it. ....and the setting FOR THE RAPTURE is TOTALLY OPPOSITE of your doctrine. IOW....A COMPLETE 14K IMPOSSIBILITY.
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    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Nope It says " from the outermost part of earth" The "outermost part" is the atmosphere. But if I play "devils advocate" and give you a point ( for your impossible deal) and say " oh wow they actually DO have a verse"... it would be "2 verses indicating a gathering in heaven" vs your 1...
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    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    You could not present your case. Your reply is "i have no supporting evidence , however, I just have a feeling about this, therefore I justify inserting additives into verses"
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    You never have, and never will erase the pretrib rapture verses BY JESUS that you claim Jesus is using scare tactics.
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Jesus building mansions for saints and believers in heaven in Revelation. So yes heaven is the destination .
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    The beast is thrown in the LOF AFTER the white horses coming. It seems you are placing every "42 months"(1290 days) spoken of as starting and stopping the exact same day. 1) is Daniel's 7 years off the table? 2) is every "pretrib setting rapture" off the table? 3) are you saying the rapture of...
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    Arguments and comments on the Post Trib position

    The GWTJ is after the mil. The second resurrection. No dead in Christ raised at the GWTJ.
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    Arguments and comments on the Post Trib position

    Does your assumption have Jesus ruling over nations of dead people? Want to retract that impossibility?
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Rev 14 :14 transforms into acts 1 , matt25, and Rev 19 ????? How does a honest student manage to do that?????
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    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Rev 19 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had...