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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I am amazed at how many do not investigate what Jesus did in decending into Hades and paradise. David is now in heaven as are all the patriarchs. They were raised and seen in Jerusalem They are firstfruits along with Jesus.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The millineum is before the judgement into the LOF
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The reason they're wrong about all that ,is because both lot ,and Noah, were taken, removed, or gathered ,whatever you want to call it, under normal living conditions, with buying and selling, marrying ,and giving in marriage. in other words normal life and then they were suddenly taken. And...
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    The Rapture Cover-up

    Not only that, but the rapture verses are all pretrib Rev 14:14 only fits a pretrib rapture. Mat 24:38 only fits a pretrib rapture Rev 19 only fits a pretrib rapture Acts 1 ( like manner) only fits pretrib rapture Lots gathering only fits pretrib rapture. "One taken/left" only fits pretrib...
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    The Rapture Cover-up

    There are no postrib rapture verses All the rapture verses are NOT IN THE SETTING that you need them to be. They are in the OPPOSITE setting.
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    The Rapture Cover-up

    Please stop replacing the pretrib rapture via omission of the pretrib rapture verses. You have no understanding of the groom gathering the bride.
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I just happened to be reading in Matthew and saw that verse. I went "huh?"..reread it. Thank You Jesus !!!!!!! !! !
  8. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Paul is talking about the gathering of the bride. You got it completely wrong.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Ahem...show me Lot rescued post Sodom firestorm. Which is what you are saying. BOTH GATHERED BEFORE ANY JUDGEMENT. You are not aware that a postrib model has both rescued post judgement????? You really can not see the normal life setting of the pretrib rapture verses???? The Bible clearly has 2...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You do not understand the purpose of the great tribulation. It is Jacob's trouble. ( Israel's trouble) Romans 9, 10, and 11 describe The salvation of Israel. Regrafted back in. Rev 14 is the gathering of them mid trib. No matter what you think you know, Rev 14 has 2 gatherings of The Jewish...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There are two great battles in the end times. One on the white horses, when Jesus returns post tribulation, and another one at the end of the Millennium when Satan is loosed and gathers all the rebellious people in the millennium. But it's not clear if every man woman and child on the planet is...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Which is why Noah and Lot frustrate them. They actually need both to be gathered post Flood or judgement. Postrib rapture DEPENDS on omission and refraining the Bible. Omit....reframe.... name call...repeat.
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Your doctrine has you confoosed . Your beliefs is that Lot and Noah are rescued post trib. ....which is comical how Jesus showed the world, in His Word, that your deal is backwards. Psssst...both lot and Noah are gathered pretrib. I know you hate that and are frustrated by all 3 comings of...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Lol I have no doubt you hate the pretrib rapture verses Calling God's word stupid and lies is where your doctrine carried you. That doctrine of yours is a beast that carried you into deception. It died long ago, and is why it carried you into a wasteland, and you are now afoot. Left you...
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    Reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is false (Despite my love for them as human beings)

    Mat 28 9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. 10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. The deity of Jesus...
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Mat 28 9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. 10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. The deity of Jesus...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Maybe watching " nefarious " will help. Satan is the god of this world. Death has been defeated. Sickness defeated. Yet there is rampant increases in the devils influence. ...even though both are decisively defeated. The elephant in the room is that we got pitched the keys to the kingdom and...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Apparently worldwide. I would have to look into the beasts.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The AC rules and REQUIRES the mark ...which is worship. No buying/ selling with out the mark. So, the GT is future.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    T THe wise left with Jesus to the marriage chamber. ...which is troublesome to your beliefs. All postribbers change the virgin parable components.