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  1. rebuilder 454

    Rapture is false doctrine.

    The 5 foolish were unprepared. You are calling the wise doomed to sheol
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How long ago was the mil?
  3. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The 4 horsemen kick it off. Then according to Daniel it looks like 7 years in duration. It is " Jacob's trouble " . ( Israel's trouble) It has a distinct purpose as it plows up and prepares the Jews to be gathered in Rev 14
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Amil logic. Do you amils ever get together to test your doctrine and try to build on your amil beliefs, or do you ever take a break from the obsession of despising the rapture and those waiting for Jesus? It appears you guys don't have much traction in your own beliefs based on Satan being...
  5. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Just pretend it is when you want it to be. No Scripture has ever helped you out if error. Maybe ask someone that will wast time pointing it out to you. It is a wast of time.
  6. rebuilder 454

    Rapture is false doctrine.

    BTW, The rapture is the gathering of the bride. Most pretribbers do not know that. All postrib are unaware of that, and are unaware of the purpose of the GT.
  7. rebuilder 454

    Rapture is false doctrine.

    I am looking for Jesus. Not the white horse rider. I am a pretribber . The postribbers are waiting for the AC. (Waiting for the white horse rider ) IOW, Watching and waiting for the wrong person. Whether or not postribbs worship him is up to them. They either do or are beheaded. ...but they are...
  8. rebuilder 454

    Rapture is false doctrine.

    Just throw away mat 24 and mat 25, acts 1 and 1 thes 4. Then keep pretending there is no catching away.
  9. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    *****************SO TRUE !*****************
  10. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I challenged postribbers a year ago to provide a passage showing a postrib rapture of the church. A year later...STILL NO VERSES.
  11. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    One single passage.? I got several. Here is one, matt24: "38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the...
  12. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Rev 19 has the church in heaven along with the marriage supper....AHEM... DURING THE TRIB TL challenged you concerning Rev 19 You were UNABLE to respond. Instead you respond with non applicable off topic generalities.( As you showed us in your quote above) You just exposed what you are about.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Amils need their own thread They are unreachable. I may as well talk to a telephone pole as try to address them.
  14. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There are 2 Mt Zions. One in heaven One on earth. " There are two – one on earth and one in heaven. On earthly Mount Zion refers to Jerusalem. But there is a corresponding Mount Zion in heaven. Hebrews 12:22 refers to it: “But you have come to Mount Zion, the city of the Living God, the...
  15. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is the kind of stuff you center on. desperately diverting away from the basis of the trib. It is like arguing over the length of time it took the WTC to fall and using it to prove an earthquake actually knocked the towers down Do you like 3 years? 4 years ? 8 years? 2 years? 1 month? It...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The stephanous crown is similar to a crown at some sports event winner. Jesus wears diadems at his white horse appearing. Kingly crowns Yet another thing pointing to a bogus fake Jesus on a horse at the start of the gt
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is way off. The 1st horse rider is not Jesus. It is the false christ, the antichrist. When Jesus comes on a white horse He is accompanied by millions of saints blackening the sky. He comes on horses AFTER the 7 yr gt. What you are supposing is impossible. That false Jesus is at tge door ...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It is refreshing seeing the members in here politely bouncing versus back and forth, debating and being respectful. We may not agree on things, but we can still love each other. Kudos to everyone
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    CadyandZoe said: """Hmm. Okay. It says that he is carrying a bow. What does the bow represent? Thanks. :)""" A bow is for killing. He is " Antichrist " He is Both against the true Christ, while claiming he is the true Christ...complete with signs, wonders and miracles. Millions martyred who...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Rev14 :3 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.