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I would ask that you might try and interpret ALL the information I provided you... I can assure you that Tertullian or anyone up to today has NOT torn apart these 4 verses AND they agree with the rest of the prophetic verses both before and after chapter 9. But, you are certainly entitles to...

If I understand your comment.. I think you are saying that Tertullian believed the "prince who is to come" is the Messiah? Well, if you read many of the church followers they were all over the place - no different than today.

Chiastic structure for 9:24 - 27 A — Spiritual restoration Daniel 9:24 — sin, atonement, righteousness, prophecy, Most Holy B — Physical restoration Daniel 9:25a — Jerusalem restored and rebuilt C — True/restorative Prince Daniel 9:25b — Messiah the Prince comes C′ — False/destructive prince...

There is no question there was terrible in-fighting within the nation - at least 3 different factions all clawing at themselve. The nation was disintegrating. But, the one common denominator for the 3 groups was their hatred for Rome. And when the northern Jews fought, embarrassed and killed...

Thanks for the coversation but I have provided you with answers with scripture references to your interpretations at least twice. You are certainly entitiled to your own interpretations. 9:26.....And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. In the...

I agree with part of what you are saying, but I think you are blending two different levels of destruction that Daniel keeps distinct. Yes, there was a spiritual condition before the physical destruction. Daniel’s prayer in chapter 9 shows that Jerusalem’s earlier fall came after covenant...

Chiastic structure for 9:24 - 27 A — Spiritual restoration Daniel 9:24 — sin, atonement, righteousness, prophecy, Most Holy B — Physical restoration Daniel 9:25a — Jerusalem restored and rebuilt C — True/restorative Prince Daniel 9:25b — Messiah the Prince comes C′ — False/destructive prince...

NO. The prince who is to come does so after 70 ad. I believe I have explained this a few times in the previous posts. The consequence of their rejection could not occur prior to their rejection. Jesus in indeed telling them what will happen. Please read post #364 - it is quite detailed.

I am not sure I understand your comment. The temple has nothing to do with the 6 elements in verse 24. His death on the cross accomplished those 6 elements.

what is telling you that the spiritual and the physical consequences of rejecting their Messiah must occur within the 70 weeks? Are you really saying the temple must be destroyed within the remaining 3,5 years after the cross?

Daniel 9:24–27 must be read with careful attention to the difference between what the seventy weeks are appointed to accomplish and what the prophecy later reveals as consequences for rejecting the Messiah. Verse 24 gives the controlling purpose of the seventy weeks: “Seventy weeks are...

Daniel 9: 26“ And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood,

Chiastic structure for 9:24 - 27 A — Spiritual restoration Daniel 9:24 — sin, atonement, righteousness, prophecy, Most Holy B — Physical restoration Daniel 9:25a — Jerusalem restored and rebuilt C — True/restorative Prince Daniel 9:25b — Messiah the Prince comes C′ — False/destructive prince...

The claim that “the prince who is to come” in Daniel 9:26 must refer back to “Messiah the Prince” in verse 25 because “prince” is the nearest antecedent does not hold grammatically. First, Daniel was written in Hebrew, not English, and Hebrew does not require a repeated noun to refer to the...

You didn't even read it or took the time to consider what the verses speak to.. Nothing whatsoever is found in all of Daniel about Epiphanies. And I can assure you, there is absolutely nothing standard in these interpretations - you will not find them in any commentary. I don't believe I will be...

If you do not mind, perhaps we can put 9:27 aside for right now. If we return to chapter 7 I would like to propose something to you for your consideration. And although you do not have to accept my interpretations on these topics, I can assure you that chapter 2, 7, 8, 9 and 11 are all...

Thank you but that is not how I understood the verses in Daniel or in the NT… which is why we are all here discussing these verses. But to discuss all of your interpretations mentioned in that post would require a significant amount of time and attention. Daniel, IMO, is clearly the most...

Well, I have already presented a ton of information regarding this “prince who is to come” … but everyone is entitled to their own interpretations. Nothing wrong with that….

I agree with you that the "prince who is to come" in chapter 9 is indeed the little horn, however, if you want to identify exactly who he is and when he comes you must study chapters 7, 8 and 11. God gives the time markers and the characteristics, attributes (negative) for this individual...

Daniel 9 contains both restorative elements and destructive elements. In Daniel 9:24–25, we find the restorative side of the prophecy. Verse 24 gives the spiritual and redemptive restoration: to finish transgression, make an end of sins, make reconciliation for iniquity, bring in everlasting...