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  1. jeffweeder

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I believe the millennium is now. The first resurrection is the spiritual resurrection. You reacted to my post 137 in the vain babbling thread that explains more. Also the post you reacted to in this thread about his coming, they go hand in hand to explain my position. Jn 5 and rev 20 were...
  2. jeffweeder

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No PEtRA. I was asking when Jesus mentioned the millennium as he was teaching his second coming in the Gospels. For instance, this in matt 25..., 31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory and majesty and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the...
  3. jeffweeder

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    JN 5 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My message], and believes and trusts in Him who sent Me, has (possesses now) eternal life [that is, eternal life actually begins—the believer is transformed], and does not come into judgment and...
  4. jeffweeder

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Rev 1 4 John, to the seven churches that are in [the province of] Asia: Grace [be granted] to you and peace [inner calm and spiritual well-being], from Him Who is [existing forever] and Who was [continually existing in the past] and Who is to come, and from the seven Spirits that are before His...
  5. jeffweeder

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    :eek: That doesn't sound right Rather, it was their rejection of Gods salvation. Lk 19 41 As He approached Jerusalem, He saw the city and wept over it [and the spiritual ignorance of its people], 42 saying, “If [only] you had known on this day [of salvation], even you, the things which make for...
  6. jeffweeder

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    :contemplate: and what did Jesus have to say about that? I can't find anything but the end of the world.
  7. jeffweeder

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    We were talking the sheep and the goats at his coming right? You are adding a third group that is not thrown into the fire. you said Why do you have some goats surviving to populate the earth that Jesus said would pass away at his coming? You do realize that the sheep at that time of his...
  8. jeffweeder

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Not so. Do the living sheep inherit the kingdom before the foundation of the world before the dead in Christ? Is Apostle Paul Dead?....... 2Tim 4 7 I have fought the good and worthy and noble fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith [firmly guarding the gospel against error]. 8...
  9. jeffweeder

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Yes, there are sheep and goats at his coming. Nobody else right? The sheep inherit the kingdom prepared from the foundation of the world...that place where the tree of life was accessible. The goats are thrown into the lake of fire, and we all should know when this happens...after the...
  10. jeffweeder

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    Absolutely true. Towards the end of the Babylonian captivity of 70 years, Daniel is fervently praying for his people's sins. The answer to that prayer was that Messiah would come and deal with the people's sin in the most wonderful way imaginable. Those Babylonian exiles were given a time frame...
  11. jeffweeder

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    I am well aware of who the prophecy was for and assumed nothing. Daniels exiled people were promised a return to their land, and after 69 of those weeks the anointed Messiah would be revealed to his people. 25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuance of the command to...
  12. jeffweeder

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    4 Therefore, we speak of you with pride among the churches of God for your steadfastness [your unflinching endurance, and patience] and your firm faith in the midst of all the persecution and [crushing] distress which you endure. 5 This is a positive proof of the righteous judgment of God [a...
  13. jeffweeder

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What believers are worthy to escape is God's righteous judgment. 2Thess 1 3 We ought always and indeed are morally obligated [as those in debt] to give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters, as is fitting, because your faith is growing ever greater, and the [unselfish] love of each one of...
  14. jeffweeder

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    It is clear what the 70 weeks are about. Seventy Weeks and the Messiah 24 “Seventy weeks [of years, or 490 years] have been decreed for your people and for your holy city (Jerusalem), to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make atonement (reconciliation) for wickedness, to...
  15. jeffweeder

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    His activity was clearly restrained. 2Thess 2 6 And you know what restrains him now, so that he will be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is removed. 8 Then that lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord...
  16. jeffweeder

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Where did Jesus make it clear that he was speaking of two? Where did Jesus first discuss his promise to come again? John 14 “Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many rooms; if that were not so, I would have told you, because I am...
  17. jeffweeder

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I didn't leave anything out. I quoted that passage to you. Jesus coming is always about him coming and receiving his own to himself. 1Thess 4 is no different I agree. So anyone who believes that Paul alludes to 2 different comings is not to be listened to. What he taught them in 1Thess is what...
  18. jeffweeder

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I understand that Paul didn't start referring to some other coming he told them about in the previous letter. 2Thess 2 2 Now we ask you, brothers and sisters, regarding the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2 that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or...
  19. jeffweeder

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Not so. Paul actually believes that the Lord comes with his Angels. He clarifies his position in his second letter to those Thessalonians, 2Thess 1 6 For after all it is only right for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted, along with...
  20. jeffweeder

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Just saying After Jesus second coming would have sufficed.