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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    No, again, it’s just that your understanding of who truly makes up God’s Israel is wrong; again, God’s true Israel is Christ Jesus Himself, which means then that all those in Christ are of God’s Israel: Matthew tells us that Jesus fulfills Hosea 11 (Matt. 2:13–15). He is the true Israel, the...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You are, yes, but your… limited… understanding of it is the issue. I don’t. See above. Um, no, of course not. God’s true Israel is Jesus Christ, Davy. And all those in Christ ~ of any ethnicity, Jewish or otherwise ~ are true Jews of God, of His Israel. I agree. The nation God promised...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Also, @Davy .... <smile>... about God's Israel... Hosea the prophet ministered during the eighth century BC and focused his attention primarily on the northern kingdom of Israel. During the early part of Hosea’s ministry, Jeroboam II ruled over Israel and the northern kingdom enjoyed a good...
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    Revelation chapter 11 questions

    David, I agree with you that Satan is not the king over the "locusts"... <smile> Consider what these "locusts" are "like" ~ "horses prepared for battle: on their heads were what looked like crowns of gold; their faces were like human faces, their hair like women’s hair, and their teeth like...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Unbelieving Jews, Davy, are not Jews of God. As Paul (who of course was very, very, very Jewish) says, "...no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical... a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    The blanket answer to all your... "queries" ... is... well, two Biblical quotes, although this is certainly not an exhaustive list: "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Did you mean to say "Hey PinSeeker"...? <smile> I think I know what you're driving at, Peter, so I'll say this: Instead of thinking of it in the sense of "what you and I must do" ~ as if our being Holy-Spirit sealed depends on something we do ~ we should think of it rather in the sense that...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Hmmm... so you think neither David nor Paul are saved... and with Jesus now. Wow. Okay, then... And you think you are sinless... Yeah, okay, but again, in John's words, you deceive yourself, and the truth is not in you (1 John 1:8). But I guess you probably, uh, "think"... John wasn't...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Sure. Hmmm. So King David and the apostle Paul are both in hell? <chuckles> Sin is sin, for sure. But you mean 'practiced' in the wrong sense. It's not just in the wooden sense of being "done a large number of times"... <smile>... but rather done habitually and intentially, so walking...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Right... Well, but he will, because, having been born again of the Spirit, and because of having this new spirit in him, even the Holy Spirit ~ given to Him by God's grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8), because of this, his will is then to do God's will. This is the natural result of being...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Right. The calling of God and the gifts of the Spirit are irrevocable. And we are kept in the Spirit through faith by the power of the Spirit to the day of Christ. The good word that God began in us He will bring to completion at that day. If anyone "goes back" to dwelling in sin, he or she...
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    Why Will "all nations" attack Israel?

    Goodness gracious. I mean, just... wow. Yeah, great thread, fellas. Hoo, boy. Grace and peace.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Interesting... Here's how I understand it, Earburner. <smile> The whole of Revelation is about the time from Christ's life on earth to the time He returns. "After this" is the setting, as John says at that outset of his visions in Revelation 4:1, and this is analogous... synonymous with...
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    Free Will

    (4 of 4) Wrapping up, because now we're just back to more of the same, more of you just saying... uh... "stuff"... stupid stuff... <chuckles> Whatever... <smile> You literally said, Dan, that I was "back in that false doctrine having been deceived by the devil in to believing Romans 7 man is...
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    Free Will

    (3 of 4) See, this is not what the Reformers said or believed at all. What you're not... allowing for (pun intended), Dan... is that God allows some things to happen, which can be the case even if ~ when ~ the Lord doesn't necessarily "want" them to happen and doesn't cause them to happen. If...
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    Free Will

    (2 of 4): As Paul says in Romans 3:22-23, "...there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." And then in Romans 5:12, "...sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned..." And in Ephesians...
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    Free Will

    I'm assuming you are Protestant and not Catholic, so much of what you think, too, "comes from the Reformers." <smile> What happened in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, Dan is called the Protestant Reformation, and it was begun in October, 1517 by Martin Luther, when he nailed his "95...
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    Free Will

    Much of what I think about Biblical things, Dan, is different from what you teach. And that's a good thing, because in those cases, you're guilty of doing the very thing you accuse me of here. In.... your opinion. But hey, rather than just making assertions here with no reasoning, and about...
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    Free Will

    In your... humble opinion. Even Paul, though ~ after he was born again... said... well, quoting... "I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do...
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    Free Will

    Interesting. I say ~ as a five-point Calvinist, and I think if John Calvin were part of this conversation he would agree ~ that, humanly speaking, to say there is no free will is absolutely equivalent to saying man has no brain and cannot think, and thus cannot evaluate anything at all or make...