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  1. PinSeeker

    Can we know the day and hour of Jesus' return?

    Hmmm, Scripture is clear that He will be on earth to execute the final Judgment. His return will be shortly prior. Right. That kind of thinking is... not good. <smile> Right, but the final Judgment will not be... somewhere else, either. <smile> How else would He then bring heaven down to...
  2. PinSeeker

    Can we know the day and hour of Jesus' return?

    Yes, as far as I know... <chuckles> ...Jesus never says anything about leaving, and returning, and then leaving again and returning again. <smile> Just the thought of that is... well, fanciful... <smile> He never says nor insinuates that He will return twice. He says: "the Son of Man is...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Hmmmm. Okay, thanks. But... well, James, in talking about trials in the first chapter of his epistle, says "count it all joy, brothers..." Yes, the text in Revelation 13 (ESV) says, "calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man," for sure, but might this be a "counting" or...
  4. PinSeeker

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    <chuckles> Ah, well, so, to your question here, Anchorite, I would question what you mean by "buying" and "selling"...? <smile> That's really rhetorical; I know... I understand... what you're saying. But to what you say here, and in answer to my question, here, actually... in a certain way...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Yeah, I agree with your "oh boy." <smile> Yeah, so, I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with what you say here, but why do you say this, Rob? Grace and peace to you.
  6. PinSeeker

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Hmmmmm... I'm a little curious. I mean just a bit... <smile> Grace and peace to you, Rob.
  7. PinSeeker

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Not responding to anyone in particular, here, but here are some of my thoughts on what has been discussed... We talk about athletes having the mark of greatness, or the mark of a champion, right? Is that because they have certain scars, or tattoos, or even brands... visible imprints of some...
  8. PinSeeker

    Can we know the day and hour of Jesus' return?

    Well, to the hour and day of his second return. So yes, two absurdities. <chuckles> Absolutely. Grace and peace to you, David.
  9. PinSeeker

    Can we know the day and hour of Jesus' return?

    Think of all those in Christ who have died up until now, CrowCross. So how big is this literal house that God lives in? Who keeps is clean? Does someone have to go to some big grocery store in the sky and buy everyone food? These are all... rhetorical questions, by the way... in case you...
  10. PinSeeker

    Can we know the day and hour of Jesus' return?

    Absolutely. He said He was coming back... I get that you think so, but there is absolutely nothing there about taking us anywhere when he returns. Yes, His Father's house... we will certainly dwell in the house of the Lord forever (Psalm 23). God is spirit (John 4:24), CrowCross; surely...
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    Can we know the day and hour of Jesus' return?

    You and I both know, David, that @The Light will point out what Paul says in 1 Thessalonians 4 (and maybe a thing or two other than that, but primarily that). What's always been interesting to me is, Paul says Jesus will return there ~ "with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and...
  12. PinSeeker

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Well, of course... as do you. Hey, um, about your post 773 above... Who's the "Holly" Spirit? <chuckles> Grace and peace to you.
  13. PinSeeker

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    <chuckle> Grace and peace to you.
  14. PinSeeker

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    LOL! I think you’re… Well. Bless your heart. LOL! You have no idea how much I don’t care. <smile> Yeah don’t care. That says way, way more about you and the kind of… person… you are than anybody or anything else. Oh, that’s good, something to agree on to end it. <smile> Cool. Grace and...
  15. PinSeeker

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Oh I get your, um, “point”… <chuckles> There’s nothing symbolic about His ascension (it was what it was) or His return (it will be what it will be. The manner in which His return is portrayed ~ the imagery given to John in that particular vision in Revelation 19 ~ conveys to us the power, the...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You are. Nope. I am not. Tastes great! Less filling! Tastes great! Less filling! <smile> I don’t lie. Lying bad! <chuckles> <eye roll>. Right back atcha, Davy. Grace and peace to you.
  17. PinSeeker

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Well, I would agree; we will in fact be rescued. Yes, when Jesus returns, He will free us ~ and all of creation ~ from sin and death, for sure, as I said. But to... well... parlay that into, "oh, yeah, that means they believed we will be whisked away to... someplace else... and then return...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I mean it does all happen at the end of the thousand years, God's millennium, but no, you're making a second timeline up, as Darby did in about 1830, and as all pre-trib folks even today do. <smile> In your opinion, sure, I understand. And is. No, then... after Jesus's return and the final...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    "rainbows, puppy dogs, butterflies and daisies"... do you mean without sin? If so, then, that's correct, the world will not yet be without sin, at least not initially. That will be the case after the final Judgment, after which the New Heaven and New Earth and the Kingdom of God will be...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Sure. I understand. Me, too... it's why I quoted him... <smile> Again: "Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But...