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If you are implying soul sleep, I indeed see it as a real possibility though currently it's not my position. IOW, unlike some others in here, I'm not closed-minded to the possibility soull sleep could be Biblical. From the perspective of the dead, since death could be timelessness, it might be...

What about the 2ws meant in Revelation 11? How do you explain them? According to the texts they rise then ascend into heaven before the 7th trumpet even sounds.

At least you are correct about everything I quoted. But what you submitted after that is where your interpretation started going south into a ditch. Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and...

In regard to post #855 I had Chatgpt reframe for me what I inintially submitted in that post. In order to make it clearer and try and keep the personal jabs out of it or at least keep them to a minimum. Below is post #855 yet again, but this time using Chatgpt as a tool in order to make it even...

And you have room to talk in this case? That your goal is not to have biblical truth, but rather your goal has always been to disprove Premil doctrine. Sounds like to me you are doing that big 'A' word---Avoiding--meaning in regard to what I'm arguing per Daniel 7. My reading of the texts in...

And you did have good teachers??? You seriously still need to deal with the Daniel 7 mess you created before you can tell anyone one way or the other anything in regard to the thousand years. Your interpretation of Daniel 7 does not agree with the texts if you insist that Daniel 7:22 =...

It seems simple. The hour that now is, is what prepares one for the hour that is coming, meaning verse 28 and 29. The hour that now is, applies to the here and now and involves being initially saved. The hour that is coming involves what one's fate is when they did or did not respond to the hour...

Equally, do you realize that when the 'until' is fulfilled in verse 22, that it means the following comes to a complete end to never continue nor be repeated in the future--- the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them? Something else to keep in mind is this. Daniel...

Since you are on record that you agree, this then logically means Daniel 7:22 is when the millennium initially begins. But guess what? Amil has the beginning of the millennium somewhere around the time of the resurrection of Christ or soon afterwards. Guess what else? Daniel 7:21 has to...

Obviously, those who rise to everlasting life does not include anyone that rises to everlasting shame. Equally, those who rise to everlasting shame does not include anyone that rise to everlasting life. Therefore, 2 types of resurrections are meant. Both involve rising from the dead. The Bible...

Make it crystal clear to me. This is not yet crystal clear to me what your view is in regard to this question--Do you agree or disagree that Daniel 7:22 = Revelation 20:4-6? What I mean by that question is this. When Daniel 7:22 is meaning, is that also when Revelation 20:4-6 is meaning? IOW...

Do you agree or disagree that Daniel 7:22 = Revelation 20:4-6?

Christ's resurrection is not the subject of 2 Timothy 2:18. Otherwise, they would have been correct, not incorrect, that the resurrection is already past. The subject is the resurrection of saved saints. How can you not see, that if Christ's resurrection is meant per 2 Timothy 2:18, that this...

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. This verse fits you to a T. If you disagree, then explain why it doesn't. Why do you think these things are something good that every interpreter should seek to...

Maybe you misunderstand me? In Revelation 20 there are only 2 resurrection events mentioned. 1) the first resurrection 2) the resurrection of the rest of the dead after the thousand years. Premil = 1) = the bodily resurrection of the saints Amil = 1) = spiritual resurrection of the saints...

Even when I agree with you that Christ's resurrection is the first resurrection, you still find some reason to attack me. Obviously, you literally hate me. You never have anything good to say about me ever.

How in the world is it blasphemy to logically conclude that the dead that rise first = having part in the first resurrection? It's the same thing as saying, the dead in Christ who rise first have part in the first resurrection, Christ's resurrection. No one is denying that Christ was raised...

Why are you asking @ewq1938 those things? He doesn't believe in a Pretrib rapture. Some of you apparently don't understand that not all Premils are also Pretribbers.

Maybe some of the following might answer some of that? Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy...

In Daniel 12:2 though, it is crystal clear from the text itself that not only do those that awake to everlasting life rise at that time, so do the ones that wake to everlasting shame. The text says 'many who sleep', not all who sleep. Therefore. some of them that rise at the time are the lost...