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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    I have a hunch that it is God's good wisdom that we encounter all the things that we encounter in living this life, that one wouldn't have to encounter ensconced in a monastery or convent. We learn so much and are changed by the challenges of life and things we go through, even or sometimes...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    I'm talking about religious humanism, or perhaps we would call it humanistic religion....under a Christian banner, in Christian guise. It thinks it knows better than the Lord God Almighty. You may be more like Epi and his followers than you realize. I would not be drinking from this fountain...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    How many times do we have to say so? But the RCC is head of them all. They are having more and more in common with HER. And I will add she is ACTIVELY engaged in trying to recruit the protestant realm back under her rule.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    This was your only answer to my question and post, which didn't address my question but was a way of jumping down my throat in defense of something. If you agreed in principle with what I wrote you failed to say so for some reason. I wasn't criticizing "the mystics" not knowing enough about...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    It doesn't always come from a pure heart. It can come from the flesh too......motives need to be sifted and sanctified/purified.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    You still haven't even answered my question, maybe because you're too busy jumping down my throat. How were those mystics fighting from the inside of the church? Were they still part of the RCC, or had they left it in their hearts and are you just talking about hanging around for expediency's...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Amen, exactly sister. How I read that is that if we are part of a sinful entity we are party to its sins and will receive of its judgments, whether its an apostate church organization or the world. We are to come out from among them and be separated unto God. Being separate is a big part of...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    No that isn't all you asked. You were plainly implying that I am not worthy to "criticize" her and the other mystics. I'm not comparing myself to anyone, just sharing what scripture says. Do with it what you will brother.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    I don't think of it as a separate second entrance......I think in terms that we HAVE entered, but also are enterING. At some point we potentially will have enterED. I think of it as the culmination and result of a deeper and thorough repentance and consecration. Laying our whole life on the...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Tell me which of the mystics am I criticizing....? I don't know anything about them. I read most of Jeanne Guyon's autobio recently, that is all I have read of any of them. You mentioned some had been fighting RCC error from within. All I did was ask what you meant by that, and bring the...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    I was raised a Catholic, had the sacraments, and even went on a charismatic Ultreya weekend in high school. After receiving Jesus for real in my late twenties, I never quite knew how to think of Catholicism, other than recognizing there was no life there and to avoid it. Later on I did...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    I don't know what you mean by fighting it from the inside....? We are told not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers but come out from among them and be separate. And concerning Mystery Babylon it is the same instruction....."come out of her my people lest ye receive of her...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Except that we are talking about SPIRITUAL things, not lunch.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    If someone is gleaning from Catholics sources..........they need to be very discerning. And it is so easy to gradually slide away from the plumbline of God's word if we are reading other things more than the word. Also, we can easily become "joined" with the spirit (if that's the right way to...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    @shepherdsword.....it's not letting me quote your post for some reason. Just want to say that my first paragraph was for you in response to what you said. The second paragraph was for all of us in general....guardrails. But faithful are the wounds of a friend, no?
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Do you think that is why the Holy Spirit showed me what He did?? It was for my good. And for the good of anyone who receives it. What is more dangerous than a lion is a lion dressed as a lamb.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    You just let me know what part of my post you disagree with then brother. That for something to be of God it needs to be in Spirit and not in the flesh? That if we are in the flesh concerning something it leads to death? Do you disagree with that? I'm cautioning people that they need to be...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    I dont' think, from scripture, that grace is just power alone..........it is more the graciousness - favour and good will - of God towards us from which everything good flows to us......whether salvation, forgiveness, mercy, provision, power, protection, strength, spiritual gifts, etc. And I...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Be careful of relying on other people too much instead of God. If any lacks wisdom we can ask the Lord and He will give it freely, and I've found Him to be true to His word. I want to tell you and @MostlyConfused about something. I found myself in a thread one day where one of Epi's most...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    You "have" to put a scriptural reference for those with a "mechanical" understanding......? David being a man after God's own heart CHERISHED the word of God. And God Himself esteems His word over all His name. I hope everyone will guard their hearts. It is troubling to me when I see...