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Notice the "have lived in" I bolded above. I agree with St. Clement. All who are godly in Christ HAVE LIVED IN His perfection, which now informs their daily walk. That's discipleship 101. Perfect and blameless is about attitude (Tamim) to be perfect as God is perfect...and is based on...

Praying BEFORE posting? A novelty? I hope not. I await your appraisal! :)

For those who are offended at the truth I am speaking, well, I am winning some to the truth. If you have not yet been won over, you will just have to wait your turn! Be patient. ;)

That is wrong. You are not understanding the training of a saint. It would be like saying...no one can command an army unless he is presently fighting in a war. But people who have EXPERIENCED the war and had victories is BETTER suited to command than a novice soldier. So then I would say no...

I didn't say that. The truth can indeed be known, but not by the majority....never by the majority. Pride is in the way. Jesus says...you will know the truth and truth will set you free." That alone should change your attitude.....or will you stiffen your neck like so many here? Allow some...

That's because no one can seem to understand the truth. People avoid the real issues and make silly creeds and belief statements that skate around the basic issues. Arminius was championing Jesus' humanity. And Calvin was championing Jesus' divinity. Jesus has BOTH. Unless one can reconcile the...

The key word here is "corrupt"...as in self-interested, or self-seeking. And the edification is not to go to the ego outer man. Too many want to be encouraged in the part of them that God wants to crucify. So much catering to the flesh. Fills the pews but not heaven. We are not to speak from...

Bruised egos aside...I'm hoping that some people want to get back on topic. And discuss the gospel WITHOUT the self-interest. This doesn't need to get personal. The gospel has existed for much longer than we have been around. No need to get upset if we have missed the gist of it. :backtop:

Nice of you to bestow that freedom. :) Exactly my assessment. I don't think self-interest is a good thing. Could you grant/bestow the same freedom on them as you have graciously allowed me to have? What things? I see a lot of mob rule around here. And you seem to want to hold their coats...

LOL. As if you had a monopoly on bible verses. Your scheme only works if SOME bible verses are misunderstood. The others are conveniently ignored. Can you say...religious agenda? Think as you wish. It's a free country. :) Plus, it reveals what's in the heart. You are confusing care for souls...

Again with the insults. You are showing your own abundance here. If you need an ego boost...go to a happy thread. But you can't have truth and a boost.

Hey. Outer man batteries need recharging too. :dusted:

I don't think you see how petty those who are against me are. Complaining when people agree with me? The religious system tries to control people and what they believe...like the Inquisition in times past. That same spirit animates religious people everywhere.

Then say you are when someone gets you wrong and deviates the warnings. I think your opinion changes from person to person. See my other response. You HATE that there are others who see through the many many obfuscations. As long as it is just me as an outlier...that can be handled. But if...

I'm being sincere...but others here..?? Maybe looking for approval.joy:

If someone misunderstands you and you don't correct them because you seem to want people to accept you...then what part of that is taking responsibility. A poster here likened your statement to the US as a society...after I was speaking about the church ...as a deviation from what I said.....and...

You are proud and deluded. Putting on an act...you don't know what truth and reality are. I'm not playing a game. You can fool pretenders perhaps...

No, read it and obey Jesus...ask, seek, and knock....seek first for the kingdom... seek God and live! He was, yes...but he fails to mention you, even once. false. He was imputed righteousness because in God's eyes his faith merited that. same for the Publican. same for the thief on the...

I have to put up with a lot of hubris here...but I have a genuine concern for the eternal state of people. Why not allow oneself to be examined and corrected now...before the judgment. Why not make your calling and election sure? Hiding behind vague declarations? Accepting doctrines that have...

You are reading a bible. Did Abraham just read a bible before God justified him? Or was there a real contact/encounter? Did Abraham walk away AFTER being justified by God thinking that he was justified? Of course not. And God seeing him as righteous as Himself? Even more preposterous. Even...