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  1. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    You have to see the difference between what God knows (all) and what we know (little). Do you see that? :rolleyes: Neat? What about being obedient? Or does that sound too much like works to you? It is for some here. Amen. We are called to be holy as God is holy....by entering into Christ...
  2. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    False. You are naming and claiming a righteousness for yourself that you read about in the bible. Who imputes it? You do. That's exactly my point. Believe this or that and be saved??? :ummm: God has no say in it...at least not in reality. Two different standards...neither of which you...
  3. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Way to deviate the responsibility back onto the "heathen" society and wash your hands of any responsibility for the state of the world. Just ONE saint can displace a LOT of evil in a place. But a little leaven leavens the whole batch.
  4. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    I am like a voice crying in the wilderness..against all the smug self-righteousness that has been a result of a deviated anemic gospel that fills the pews...but not heaven.
  5. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    You should be saying "look at US right now" not just a fallen state like the US. Pushing the spiritual poverty problem onto the outside society is a ploy that washes one's hands of the responsibility for being a light to the world. So spoiled? The false gospel caters to the flesh. Emotional...
  6. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    One does not go to a discussion board and say...I was saved by grace through faith. Anybody can read that out of a bible. How does one know that? Religious certainty? Indoctrination? It is finished? The vagueness of these religious slogans doesn't help but hinders others. It is...
  7. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    When asked, a person should be honest enough to lay it out. Is burying a talent a testimony? I find a lot of people have no testimony to speak of and that's why they are reticent to share. Paul was not walking in the higher walk at that particular time. Whether present of absent. All part of...
  8. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Found this today... "The devil is not fighting religion. He’s too smart for that. He is producing a counterfeit Christianity, so much like the real one that good Christians are afraid to speak out against it." Vince Havner Other quotes of his... "The temple of truth has never suffered so much...
  9. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    The truth is a danger to imaginative religiosity! :) IS that what you are trying to do? ;) I pray FOR young people to turn to God with faith. But a LOT of religious beliefs. Where I am permitted to. False theology is now the norm....hence the state of the modern church. The church is...
  10. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    What people have a hard time figuring out is that both have an ASPECT of the truth. Arminius championed righteousness...and Calvin championed holiness. But each relied on a human one-sided understanding We see this with Pelagius and Constantine as well. What wins out usually is the holiness...
  11. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    I make precise descriptions...and you respond with vagueness. "I have eternal life my friend" you say...no description, no testimony...just have to put my trust in you because you say so. Everything you accuse me of you are actually doing...in reality. In the pretend world you have things...
  12. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    You are using righteousness commands...whereby I'm speaking about holiness.
  13. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    As we see here... In Christ is no sin. We have access INTO Christ by grace through faith to do what is impossible for the flesh. God invites us into a heavenly walk...in His love, joy and peace. From there we do the will of God and are empowered in a walk over sin.
  14. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    You have a double speak filter going on. Either you believe in a higher walk in Christ without sin...or you don't. By FAR the vast majority of those who have been promised life by pastors and institutions have no idea of any power other than what they can generate from themselves. That's why you...
  15. Episkopos

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    I think we need to walk in the Spirit to fulfill Romans 8. If that takes a 2nd blessing then go for it. Seek the Lord for His power at the throne of grace. I, personally, received that baptism on the first go. I don't know that affects the writing. But if you mean in one phase of his...
  16. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Waiting to die to be "purged" of one's sins is the height of futility. Fear God and depart from evil...now...before you die.
  17. Episkopos

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    This goes directly against the gospel. Jesus died to sanctify us....that we may be partakers of His holiness. So you want a lower standard of justification without holiness. And you no doubt want forgiveness without holiness. So that He finds us in that grace. Paul says...that I may be found...
  18. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    That's false. You are saying you don't believe in God imputing righteousness on those who have faith. God is not a pretender. Unlike people who CLAIM to have God's own righteousness based on religious beliefs, assumptions, and presumptions.
  19. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    I'm not seeing this as a carrot and a stick but as a doctrine that spoils people from seeking God. If you think you are that precious that God only wants to purge you from your sins AFTER you die...then there is no point to faith in the gospel. The gospel saves us, purges us...NOW. Or it is...
  20. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Well you can pretend to agree with me, in a surface way. Since I don't know you and have to rely on what you write...yes, you can fool me. But if you understand what I'm writing then why wouldn't I think that's a good thing? Are you saying you only agree to get along...to win approval? I think...