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As I understand Romans 11, the Root is Jesus. Israel and Judah and Christianity are all branches attached to that Root. I agree with the statement at the head of this topic - Christianity is NOT derived from Judaism. Historically, "Judaism" indicates the Pharisee's practice of observing the...

Interesting. My own understanding of the Bible is that God is All-Seeing, which is not precisely the same thing as Omniscience, though they are certainly neighbors.

You're probably right... my experience is anecdotal, although there were a fair number of people there. I didn't exactly study their beliefs in detail, as I am already familiar enough with Dispensationalism to know that there are some cracks in that foundation.

It's a free-will, hyper-dispensationalist movement. The folks I ran into on another forum had basically relegated most of the Bible to "that was a different dispensation and not for us." Their Bible was basically just Paul and Revelation

@Lambano Am I wrong though? You yourself pointed out Marcion. I would point out the modern 'Open Theology' movement.

As I see it, the problem is that Jack wants to condemn others. He is lief to side with a Demiurge who consigns the unrighteous to the pit.

This seems to be true. Every time I encounter a group that promotes Paul ahead of the other apostles, it always seems to run into some weirdness.

They aren't hard to find, but sure... Hosea 11 was fulfilled during the Exodus, and again in Matthew 2 Isaiah 7 is fulfilled in Isaiah 8, and again in Matthew 1

Clearly twice, but I cannot solve your unwillingness to read the chapters.

That doesn't seem to be the purpose of this topic, but a couple prominent examples: "Out of Egypt I have called my son" "The virgin shall be with child"

Not quite to that level. The OP has identified the false-Judaism that has existed alongside the true practice of the faithful since forever. It's a legitimate problem. He seems to be having a baby-and-bathwater problem solving it.

I would suggest that prophecies tend to be fulfilled more than once. From my view, this one was fulfilled in the 1st century with the adoption of the Gentiles to re-constitute Israel. That doesn't mean it can't/won't be fulfilled again.

They are linked, but perhaps not chronologically.

Probably need to add the prophecies in Enoch to this

It says something about Cain being a nomad... he was sentenced to wander in "Nod." His descendants are listed at "Jabal" and "Jubal" from which come the herdsmen. As for how the life of the Bronze-Age herdsman goes... the Bible doesn't say that... it assumes we know that, at least in the...

Yeah, that isn't obvious... So, in the Bronze Age, you were either (1) a farmer living in arable lands, or (2) a herder living in non-arable lands. Those two groups don't get along well. Farmers and ranchers have always had beef (pun intended). Cain belongs to the nomadic herding group. In...

Looking at Hebrew, the word for Cain's mark is a different word than the one elsewhere used prohibiting tattoos (Lev 19). The word used is similar to one used several times designating circumcision as a 'mark' of the covenant. Speculatively, it may have something to do with the prohibition on...

Prophecy tends to be cyclical... things happen more than once.

He has smitten Gaza before... Jeremiah 47 1 The word of the LORD that came to Jeremiah the prophet against the Philistines, before that Pharaoh smote Gaza. 2 Thus saith the LORD; Behold, waters rise up out of the north, and shall be an overflowing flood, and shall overflow the land, and all...

Do you mean the West Bank? I am probably out of date in my thinking, but when I spent time in Israel during the 90's... Palestinians could not move freely through Israeli lands; only the West Bank. Israelis were also discouraged from entering West Bank and Gaza. This was especially pronounced...