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Well, Davy, I read your post, there. Just... wanted you to know that... <smile> I'll just say that I don't deny any Bible Scripture at all ~ obviously, because I'm quoting every single Scripture you are and acknowledging it all completely ~ but only... well, to an extent, at least... your...

This is... a bit of a rant... <smile> I'm just going to dismiss it, not necessarily as rubbish, mind you, but... well... yes, I'm just gonna kind of let this go... <smile> Like you, Davy, I follow Jesus. Jesus said it was... <smile> It's just not here in it's fullness yet, that's for sure...

Absolutely. Absolutely agree with this. Yes, at the time of Ezekiel's prophecy... and Zechariah's... the millennium was surely yet future. <smile> <eye roll> Yes, I know. And I don't believe in... well, your "man's theory." Yeah, we disagree. But maybe not as much as you think. So do I...

Well, "part of," in the sense that we "are members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being...

For us, there will be no more pain, no more suffering, no more sin, no more death. I think you agree with that. Ugh. I agree about the second death existing for the unsaved, certainly, but throughout eternity, which will start after He issues the final Judgment and sends the unsaved away...

I never said I wasn't going to read your responses. Never. Continued...

Yeah, no offense, Davy, but I literally could not care less. I mean... just so you know. <smile> Grace and peace to you.

Right, but what's the nature of that destruction, Davy? In different contexts, 'destruction' can mean different things. Just to name two: 1. total annihilation 2. complete ruination Those can both be understood as a destruction, but the nature of the two are very different. At any rate...

@Davy Hey! What happened to me being on your ignore list? Yeah so much for that... Grace and peace to you, Davy.

Yeah, Cain sits in the same seat as Esau. And the rich man in Jesus's parable in Luke 16:19 and following. They, and all like them, will be on Jesus's left in the final Judgment. Right. Grace and peace to you, TS.

Absolutely. No more sin, no more death. That's... yeah, "huge." To... you know, put it rather mildly... <smile> Ohhhhhhhh... boy. Well, His return is certainly in the future; we agree on that... <smile> And... the rest of God's millennium, but there may not be much, even from our...

Y'all are really... um... colorful... and bold... <smile> And... well... <smile> Grace and peace to you both.

Well, 9 through 11, when speaking of God's purpose of election, specifically, because that's the clearest and most complete exposition of it in the Bible. But it's supported throughout the Bible, and that's why I've quoted so extensively. Even in those specific chapters, Paul quotes and refers...

From above (this is important, too, but a separate thing)... Well I don't know, but no matter, really; just a brief perusal of the posts in various threads on this board regarding all kinds of subjects can be... frightening. <smile> Hmmmm... Well, I do, but only if you mean literal, regarding...

Okay I'm going to split this up, because this is important... Disagree. In the last verse of chapter 10 ~ immediately prior to 11:1 ~ Paul quotes Isaiah, who is quoting God in saying, "All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people" (from Isaiah 65:2). So, in...

I agree concerning the expression of a result of purpose, of course, and that it substitutes for the future tense. But what is being expressed by Paul here is, regarding any individual even in the past and from then going forward, the universal possibility for all of receiving God's salvific...

Sure. He may, in the sense that He can have mercy on all, but... He doesn't... He has mercy on whom He will have mercy. The word 'may,' there, KUWN, indicates discretion. He can have mercy on all, but does not... and that according to His will, of course. And as for the "everyone," it is...

Well, it depends on what you mean by this "lake of fire" and "fiery torment"... what one understands those things to be. Which I alluded to above, at least the "fiery torment." Ahhhh, Revelation 20... it causes so many so much... consternation... But that too cannot be pinned on God, of...

Hmmm... Well, of course, no one is actually tortured for all eternity... With which you agree, I know. Unless you mean "tortured" in an entirely different sense than what people commonly think of regarding torture. Not having access anymore to something desired... that could have easily...

Very well! I hope all's well that ends well. You should have... <smile> Ah, well, by the same token, you're just as guilty of that as I am; surely you would admit that. The difference is, though, in my case, I've actually been very accurate in... I mean, not "telling you what you believe,"...