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  1. J

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    The last person mentioned before "he shall confirm a covenant" is "the prince who is to come", therefore the subject of "he shall confirm a covenant is "the prince who is to come". This is basic Grammer 101. ... the subject of "he shall confirm a covenant is "the prince who is to come". End...
  2. J

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate." The...
  3. J

    Receiving The Revelation 16:15 Scripture

    The fact that our Lord Jesus placed that "as a thief" time marker there within the 6th Vial events, in prep for the final 7th Vial, reveals what to us? He has not come back yet Therefore the ressurection has not taken place.
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Bob wrote - I don’t expect this issue to be resolved on this board, all we do is express our opinions and exchange ideals; iron doe sharpen iron and every once in a while we connect in understanding and we move forward. In Yeshua Messiah, Bob Bob, Do you see the events of v. 27 happening...
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Saint wrote - I personally lean to Yeshua as being the He in verse 27; in my opinion Yeshua was the covenant and He was the one who brought desolation to Jerusalem and the temple at the cross. The temple curtain was torn and there was no need for additional sacrifice after that time. I lean...
  6. J

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    The abomination of desolation was a "FUTURE" event associated with the "END OF THE AGE" as spoken of by Jesus. Obviously the 70th week is also. Matthew 24:15 15 "Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever...
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Daniel 9:26 26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined. The events of v. 26...
  8. J

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Retrobyter wrote - Matt 23:37-39 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left...
  9. J

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Retrobyter wrote - I've come to realize that the "tribulation" is NOT the same time period as the "70th Seven" of Dani'el, neither the "seven" nor half of the "seven." It is a much longer time period than that! It began in the first century after Yeshua` left the Jews "desolate" and will...
  10. J

    What Wrath Are Christ's Servants Not Appointed To?

    Revelation 6:15-17 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him...
  11. J

    How To Stay in Bible Context

    Which would make the wailing wall a figment of everybody's imagination.
  12. J

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Revelation 7:9-14 9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud...
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    How To Stay in Bible Context

    Retrobyter wrote - Technically, it's NO. Strictly speaking, staying within a context is staying within the chapter or even the surrounding chapters within a book. When one strays to another author, even an author under inspiration, one assumes that they are saying the same thing, but that...
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Saint wrote - There will be a translation of the mature righteous at the beginning of the 3 1/2 year great tribulation. Define translation of the mature righteous ... Thanks, JLB
  15. J

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Your theory flies in the face of scripture. 1 Corinthians 15:20-24 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in...
  16. J

    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Revelation 3:7-13 7 "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,'These things says He who is holy, He who is true, "He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens": 8 I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can...
  17. J

    How To Stay in Bible Context

    All the more reason to stay in context brother. Could you give an example from Matthew 24 of some of what you are referring to above, that we may discuss it. Thanks and God Bless you, JLB
  18. J

    The Rapture is True and Pre Trib

    Thanks Mark, I am beginning to see how you come up with alot of the different things you believe. Could you please answer with a yes or no. Do you believe The Day of The Lord to be when Jesus Christ returns to earth after the tribulation? Thanks for your answer, although I was hoping...
  19. J

    The Rapture is True and Pre Trib

    Justaname, you wrote- The rapture is a real event, in fact the Thessalonians believed they had missed it in relation to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12. Paul assures them they did not miss anything. So that I might understand what you are saying here, I would like to ask you a question. Do you...