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Perhaps we can get somewhere if I break it down better, as you are asking me to do. I will list all of my steps in reaching this conclusion. Perhaps you can tell me which you agree with, and which you disagree with, so we can find where our viewpoints separate from each other. Matthew...

Mark, The simple Truth that scripture teaches is The Return of Jesus Christ is Glorius and Very Very Visible. Matthew 24:29-31 29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of...

Mark wrote - 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. This does not say anything about a resurrection of the dead, or of the dead in Christ. 2 thessalonians 2:1-4 1 Now...

Mark, My discussion topic is the ressurection of the dead in Christ. Could you please answer the question with an agree or disagree answer. Thanks, JLB Here is what these scriptures reveal to me: The resurrection of the dead in Christ will take place before the rapture. The resurrection of...

Mark, you wrote - Quote I think that the Olivette Discourse is meant to be taken exactly as stated, that Jesus will return, and will sit upon His throne, and that certain items of business will be transacted. If that is true, then the gathering of the elect in Matt. 24:31 cannot include the...

Hi Mark, You wrote - Personally, I think that this is not the correct application of the quote you bring: If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? John 3:12 For instance, Jesus told the Jews they would be expelled from...

Now. If you want to debate this with me don't tell me I'm afraid of tribulation, or antichrist. Don't tell me I've just swallowed the party line. I've studied this for years on my own, although of course that doesn't mean I'm right. Interact with what I'm saying, my assertions. I'm not...

Matt 24:45-47 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods...

One of the clearest ways not to be deceived concerning when Jesus will return, whether before or after the Great Tribulation is; will The Lord's return be visible or invisible. Acts 1:9-11 9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out...

The Lord will return as a thief in the night for the world but not for The Church. 1 Thessalonians 5:4-6 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. 6...