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But post#122 isn't in your native language. Is it safe? Hey, you're making up the rules (as you go). .

We can only respond to what you post. .

Uh, your own words. :P .

What constitutes "atheist-infested false biblical scholarship?" .

Regardless of the negative criticisms or characterizations of the Sanctuary doctrine, whether from those within the church or outside, in the end it's primarily about God beneficently choosing to do things transparently, decently, and orderly. Pretty much anything I say above and beyond that...

Now, do you see what you've started? Can't take you anywhere! :P .

You seem to be insisting on some kind of immortality that needs no means of sustenance aside from the abstract idea of said immortality. Correct me if I'm wrong. .

I guess my point is, I can't afford to have to rely on too much outside the Word itself to warrant my faith in it. .

...unless they were never meant to be apart from the tree. At the most basic level of the argument: Food is not the only thing animals need from nature to sustain life. .

Hogwash

Regardless of whatever conclusions you might have drawn, I do not believe death was ever intended for human beings, nor for lower animals. .

Not sure how this proves that animals were born to die from the very beginning... .

This post seems thoughtful but, to be honest, this isn't my first rodeo with you and I'm not interested in over-complicating a simple issue. God wants His children to be without doubt as to His justice and mercy. This is demonstrable all throughout Scripture. It's been my experience that folks...

How could it possibly be either verified or debunked beyond question? .

What then makes Christianity, in its entirety, exempt from debatability? (Sorry, but it was bound to come to this. :)) Is anyone really unclear as to whom Paul is referring here? Btw, I've never been much of an "original sin" emphasizer. It happened, sure, but I'm never going to be held...

I think the difficulty arises from making too much of metaphors. The Adam of Genesis is real. The Adam of Romans 5 is metaphorical. I honestly believe that confusion ensues from a (perhaps inadvertent) tendency of some folks to over-complicate things rather than to simplify them as much as...

Just off the top of my head, I'm not familiar with any such problem. :) .

I think it's a mistake to assume that the Bible includes a complete and exhaustive account of everything that occured adjacent to the fall. It's also fairly clear that there's some overlap/disorder of chronology after the initial creation account. Perhaps you're being a bit too literalist -...

Critics of the Investigative Judgment never seem to say anything about the ending part of the cited article which is practically the key to understanding the doctrine: It is a divine courtesy, to which I can't, for the life of me, understand folks are so anxious to object. Unless they somehow...

So we get to 2 Peter before we find out the "cyclical" (read: life-and-death) nature of pre-fall animals? That doesn't sound right—at all. Death was never part of God's perfect creation. I used to try to imagine how sin began. And, at one point, I had nearly decided that it was a product of...