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We can't think God needs us to help Him to make us achieve holiness. Unless you are speaking of the law of Moses whereby we do things outwardly to fulfill the temporal temple law of holiness...just being different from the world...like not eating pork, or being circumcised, wearing certain...

No. To deny that the cross is about freedom from sin is to not believe the gospel. People who walk in their own power and sin all the time want forgiveness. These want to exploit the work of Jesus on the cross...have Him serve them. But that's backward. God doesn't love a cheerful TAKER...He...

Exactly. This is based on actual wording found in the bible. Actually not at all. There is no evidence to suggest that either deror or aphesis mean forgiveness...especially when we consider that these words both mean the same thing...namely "freedom" or "liberty" . It takes a huge agenda to...

Just a little more accuracy in definitions of words....is all. Aphesis doesn't mean forgiveness...it means freedom or liberty. Read Is. 61:1...then compare directly to Luke 4:18. You will see how the word "aphesis" is meant to be used. Go over all those verses and substitute "freedom" from sin...

That's what I believed before encountering the risen Lord...as a Sunday school Catholic ...at the simplistic level you are still on. Read the bible..and see how God forgave people BEFORE the cross. God is merciful. So you misrepresent God's character. And I'll do it again. The cross is about...

Correction of Corrected statement ;) Without faith it is impossible to please God...not a bible. Why do you not want God's visitation? Is the bible enough? The letter kills but the Spirit gives life. Not in the oldness of the letter but the newness of the Spirit. What do you do with verses...

No offense taken. I am working with the scriptures...from both testaments. And I am ALSO working by experience...knowing the narrow way, how hard it is to get into the kingdom walk...the full surrender...the whole-hearted crying out to God. That may happen once in a lifetime where we NEED God to...

This is easy and straightforward if you allow Paul to speak about his experience with winning Christ. All you have to do is explain what Paul means when he says in Romans 7 ..."sin revived and I died" And this AFTER he was free from the law...after he was crucified with Christ in an initial...

On what level of growth are we speaking of? There's nothing wrong with growing in the "lower" walk by human faith. Carrying one's own cross is hard...but we can muddle through. As long as we don't make foolish claims about what we are doing...rather being very humble in our carnal state. To be...

Oh, boy. More name it claim it. How many more here?

This is a spiritualization of reality. Very very few born again believers are going to go to God after their sample of grace and get the full measure. Many are called, few are chosen. People can't choose themselves, God does the choosing. How do we know we have been chosen? When we walk in the...

Consider this...we are to be translated into the kingdom...where our life is hid...where? With Christ IN God. Where I am, Jesus says, so you will there with Me. Seated in heavenly places... God resides in Zion with those who are humble. Holiness is a place. For thus says the high and lofty...

I think you are confusing eternal life with an after-life...a Valhalla kind of life after you die. Do you see that as "going to heaven"??? You could be mixed up with that and the KIND of life that Jesus was resurrected to give those who come after Him. A further confusion is you are confusing...

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As I have stated before, this is not right. The foundation is God's not ours. That foundation is to build where HE is...not where you are. So you are bringing the uncrucified ego into the mix...therefore you will not be able to build with materials that are holy and perfect. The foundation is...

This only works on the level of holiness. No one is partially holy. Either one is holy or not. We are all lost sheep until we are walking in an intimate relationship with God...in His power and in His location. In Christ we don't sin....we walk in the same life and power that He did. So then...

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Hey Johann! Good observations and correlations. Are you the same Johann from before??? ;)

Of course not. But that is the theology that will see multitudes rejected from the kingdom. The first cut is away from the world... outer wickedness...doing obvious evil. But in the wilderness God pleads with us into the 2nd cut...which is to cut away our iniquity, self-interest...

I see a fundamental misunderstanding about God's requirement in the New Covenant. The righteousness of the law is like being given a small spoon and told to fill a container the size of a city. Of course many will try and fail in the attempt. It looks to be possible until you realize the scale...