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Then you think that the Gospel is nonsensical. What are you doing here in a Christian forum?

Thanks for joining, Whetstone. If you prayed it, then it was God's will that you would pray it all along. If you are going to think of praying for something as going against God's will, then it might benefit you to be logically consistent and also think that to pray for forgiveness of sins is...

I'm not certain why you reduced Christ's title to a mere "King" after I attacked freewill. Where did "all power" go from your writing? Also, it is not my position that people's wills have been removed. It is that people's wills continuously depend on God to exist, so God provides the state of...

Sorry, Behold. I cannot tell if that amounts to a logical 'yes' or 'no' to my question. I'll propose a logical conclusion against one of your own premises that uses another one of your premises, that you are welcome to deal with. Christ has all power, therefore men have none. This means that...

My view requires that only God has free will. He says that He does what He pleases, no one can stop His hand, and there are none like Him. If you mean that my view requires that man has free will, then please demonstrate how that is so. Otherwise it is just an assertion. (Does God have...

No, it is not everything I got from your post, but it is everything I needed from you to find your answer to my question. I'm using logic to help your post 'answer' my question. What you write about your worldview is appreciated, because I might learn from it, and I can, in principle, go back...

So you believe He does not control everything, since if he does not micro-manage men, He does not control every aspect of their lives. God is omnipotent. This means all powerful. Do you believe that man has any power of his own to even exist? Or is our existence contingent on God's power?

Thank you for making your view more clear to me, but does this answer my question for you?

That means God does not control everything, right?

Thank you for joining, Behold. By whose power is man's will driven?

@Hidden In Him points out that subscribing to both views warrants having both titles. Directed towards another member who also affirmed both to be true, he said: You are affirming two views that are logically incompatible. Of course you disagree with this, but the contradiction is clear, and...

Thank you, I appreciate you for providing a clear answer when asked. This helps me to understand your position much more.

Therefore, knowing God glorifies God by necessity. Therefore, knowing God does not glorify God by necessity. So, why? Why is it that in my view, as you claim, there are specific conditions required with knowing God in order for Him to be glorified, while with yours, there aren't? Am I...

Will you please define "paradox"?

Now you're arguing as an atheist would. He is absolutely the ultimate cause of it, since if He did not create mankind, then that action never would have happened. But the action did happen, and you affirm that He is not in any way the cause of it. This would mean that He isn't God of all things...

This is the issue I meant you ought to deal with regarding God's omniscience:

In that same message I linked above, I also asked you, How is it a contradiction? You show that they are two separate things. "Complaining" and "causing" are two separate things. Is it a logical contradiction? If so, how? If not, then how is there a problem with it being true? I even made a...

I addressed this objection of yours earlier in this thread. I was one who first provided the verse, and I even explained that your interpretation must mean that you deny God's omniscience!

Right, you told me that if God controls everything, then any talk of choices would be absurd. Perhaps you will have a better time discussing with me if you actually engage with my views, instead of simply claiming "absurdity" and... what was it? "Gooblygook"?

I'm not sure we are using the terms "relative" and "metaphysical" in the same way, because if you indeed affirmed God's total supremacy (as you did) in my sense of the phrase, "in the metaphysical sense", then you'd be affirming that you are a Determinist like me. But you're arguing against it...