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  1. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Ah, now this is worth speaking to. There is Calvinism and there is something called hyper-Calvinism, which is quite different than true, historical Calvinism ~ what John Calvin actually preached and taught ~ and makes them not really Calvinists but something quite else. To your "point,"...
  2. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Oh great... <smile> I quite honestly don't even understand this very discombobulated sentence. So no, I'm obviously not teaching that. I'm not really teaching anything actually, but rather proclaiming it... What I'm saying, Behold, is that in being born again of the Spirit, God gives you...
  3. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Nothing, really; all I was saying is that the disagreement goes all the way back. I brought up the issue of God's foreknowledge as spoken of by Paul in Romans 8 some time ago... in post #1337. That post was in response to TLHKAJ, who I think things along the same lines as you on that subject...
  4. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Right, and belief is an act of the will which occurs because of the new heart received in the new birth. Grace and peace to you.
  5. PinSeeker

    Satanism : As Calvinism <> TULIP

    Not true at all... Hmmm... <chuckles> Not true at all. But God does allow evil... sin... in this world, for now. Why? Well, God's thoughts are not our thoughts, His ways not ours (Isaiah 55:8-9). It seems that's true of you, Behold. Did God not give Job over to Satan for a time? He...
  6. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    You say this, Johann, but then you say: So... which is it? <smile> This is a bit incredible... <smile> I mean, Johann, John Calvin said ~ and I say ~ but really because Jesus said, we MUST be born again SO THAT THEN we will believe. Otherwise, we would remain dead in our sins and thus...
  7. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Absolutely, unequivocally, indisputably not: "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience ~ among whom we all once lived in the...
  8. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Yes, I'm well aware. And again, Calvin attributed what he believed about God and about Scripture to Augustine, who lived almost 1500 years after Calvin, and only a little over 200 years after Christ. Not in the least. John Calvin was just as much a Christian as you or I, and one of the main...
  9. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Right, this is the free call of the Gospel, and it is issue to all of mankind. But yes, few are chosen. The ones who are chosen ~ before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him, as Paul says in Ephesians 1:4 ~ are the ones who receive the inward salvific...
  10. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    It's not about the will, Behold, or whether it is free or not. If one is still in his or her natural state, which is not born again of the Spirit, his or her will ~ free or not ~ is to do the will of his or her father the devil. And that is because he or she is of the devil and not of God...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Again, there is a sense in which this is true, but another sense in which it is not. The correct (and very Biblical) way to understand it is, man will not ~ because of his condition from birth, which is death in sin ~ if left to himself, believe and thus choose God. If left in this natural...
  12. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Fair enough, but I would say the same of you, TLHKAJ... a correct understanding, that is. No doubt true, but we can see that the "whosoever" used by both John in John 3:16 and Paul in Romans 10:12-13 is a direct reference to Joel's prophecy, specifically Joel 2:32, where God says that that...
  13. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Right; they're rhetorically asking the very same question Paul rhetorically poses in Romans 9:20... "...who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me like this?'” Grace and peace to you, Scott.
  14. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Well, yes. Maybe not quite, but very close; it is the same disagreement that Pelagius had with Augustine more than a thousand years before. Right; agreed. Neither Calvinism nor Arminianism is "evil" ~ or blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is calling evil good and good evil, and thus the...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    As to God's foreknowledge, which Paul speaks of in Romans 8... Well, let me quote it first: "For those whom He foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, in order that He might be the firstborn among many brothers" (Romans 8:29). Point 1: If we are to understand...
  16. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    No one ~ and certainly not John Calvin or any good Calvinist ~ denies that any man or woman makes a choice, and does so absolutely freely, of his or her own will and accord. Paul merely says it doesn't depend on man's choice (his strength or willing), but rather on God, Who gives mercy and...
  17. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    I'm quite sure something along these exact lines has been said in this thread, and probably multiple times, but does not Paul, in speaking of God's elect, say... "...not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel" (Romans 9:6) ...and God Himself, through Moses and cited by Paul...
  18. PinSeeker

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    WPM. Easy, dude. Come on. You're surely not the only one, but, man, this is not mortal combat. <chuckles> Ease up, man. Grace and peace to you.
  19. PinSeeker

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    LOL! That may or may not be possible. Depending on... reasonableness... <chuckles> Or maybe intransigence and/or humility... <smile> Okay, so I'm going to forgo the rest of your post, at least for now. At least for now, let's stop here and talk just about this. For now. Why do you...
  20. PinSeeker

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Not completely past ~ collectively speaking, meaning all of God's elect ~ but past for many individuals... those who are of Israel, God's elect, and have been born again of the Spirit and raised in Christ and thus believed in Christ. This distinction has to be made. Again, in the collective...