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I'm happy to discuss, although I don't think most of the faithful will be receptive when I say... There's a problem with the book of Job. It's not an Israelite book. Job was originally a book of the Canaanites, who passed it down to the Edomites, who then gave it to the Israelites. It got a...

Christian faith is always placed in Jesus, rather than any law or book. That's the big-picture message. I didn't limit myself to the bit from Romans 2. Verses that ran through my head? Paul talking about the Gentiles being adopted "before the Law" and thus not subject to it. Jeremiah...

Yes, Jesus Moses' Law isn't really binding on Gentiles OR Jews anymore. It remains relevant only because the nature of God is unchanging. What-is-right in the past tends to remain so in perpetuity.

Who, not what

Most Bible scholars today think that Azazel is the name of a god or devil - that's why it appears as a name rather than being translated. One die is cast for the Lord, and the other die is cast for... who? a literal goat? :IDK: Ancient tradition ALSO records it as the name of a fallen angel...

You asked for an example of a supernatural Satan in the books of Moses. It was the first reference that came to mind.

What do you make of this one? Leviticus 16: 6 And Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering for himself, and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. 7 Then he shall take the two goats and set them before the LORD at the door of the tent of meeting; 8 and Aaron shall cast lots...

The most important part of those questions is the thing not asked - is Satan even in this passage? The title 'Satan' isn't present in Isaiah 14. If we're being good 21st-century Bible students and using the Bible in-context, the answer is no. Tradition thinks differently. Do we value...

Yes, but I can also point to many instances where the New Testament authors didn't care what they were quoting or the context from which they were drawing. We had a couple of topics about this in the last year here. Let's see... here's one...

Alternately, for this interpretation to hold, Jesus would need to be ignoring the primary context - using Isaiah for a meaning that isn't what Isaiah intended. Again, I'm not sure the New Testament authors care much about context or the author's original intent when they quote the OT. They...

Maybe you're using a different translation? 2Sa 21:22 These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants. Anyhow, while both "giant" and "mighty man" are decent translations, both miss a shade of meaning. Rephaim are Amorite royalty -...

As nearly as I can tell, it all rests on one single verse. 2 Timothy 3:16: All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: πᾶσα γραφὴ θεόπνευστος καὶ ὠφέλιμος πρὸς διδασκαλίαν πρὸς ἔλεγχον, πρὸς...

Here's the text in Hebrew and Greek. The bolded words are the ones in question. שׁא֗ול מתּ֛חת רגז֥ה לך֖ לקר֣את בּוא֑ך עור֨ר לך֤ 14:9 רפאים֙ כּל־עתּ֣וּדי א֔רץ הקים֙ מכּסאות֔ם כּ֖ל מלכ֥י גויֽם 14:9 ὁ ᾅδης κάτωθεν ἐπικράνθη συναντήσας σοι συνηγέρθησάν σοι πάντες οἱ γίγαντες οἱ ἄρξαντες τῆς γῆς...

So, sometimes God causes our endeavors to be abruptly cut short, because He knew that in the end they would be stymied by some external force beyond our control? Am I over-extended the metaphor correctly?

Yes, well, it's also the crux of my argument. If you don't want to go there, there isn't much point of continuing. I'm the one avoiding conversation? lol Eschatology is THE most contentious topic in Christianity. If we're avoiding friction, that one's definitely off the table. Except, no...

I try to take the ones that are mostly likely to become sunburnt.

In v.9, the word translated "dead" is Rephaim. Those aren't just any old corpses, but the deified (but deceased) kings of old, whose existence continues in the underground afterlife. The Septuagint in this verse translates as γίγαντες - giants. The comparison is (supposed to be) to those...

I notice you omitted the part where I quoted verses proving what I said. :IDK: Didn't want to argue with Paul? Never read it. I assume this is an attempt to somehow smear me by comparison to something undesirable? I don't care much about eschatology. Call me a pan-millenial - everything...

The unjust. It isn't a group of people determined by culture or ancestry; it's determined by behavior.

To be fair, I did make our Moringa tree very ugly last year. Best crop of pods we've ever got though!