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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Amen. It doesn't seem as though @St. SteVen understands unbelievers are under the wrath of God and condemned already, as scripture says.....they are already drowning, sadly, but don't know it, as none of us did. God is not threatening to do it to anybody, so much as everyone has done it to...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    That is not the approach Jesus took. He was much more tactful than that, and preferred to extol the benefits and blessings and simple truth of believing in Him, while not withholding the truth about judgment at the same time. If there is no judgment, there is no mercy either...because mercy is...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    I think of it in terms of God's sovereignty based on His foreknowledge....since the bible says we are "elect according to His foreknowledge". He gives people the opportunity to repent, but if they keep refusing they become hardened...it is like a natural consequence. And the Lord, having long...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Amen, well said. The bible also says the Lord does not willingly afflict the children of men...and yet we see many do get afflicted, including believers..
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    The broad spectrum of Christianity VERSUS the narrow-minded view

    The alternative to the narrow way is destruction. Think you need to ponder that. The prophet cried, 'though the number of the Israelites be as the sands of the seashore, only a remnant will be saved'. This is true of the Gentiles/nations/world as well....Israel is our example that we are to...
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    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. The world/age to come will be...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    My understanding of sin in a nutshell is that it is when man or devil goes their own way instead of God's. Essentially it is rebellion against God's will and way. Do you have a different understanding of it?
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    The bible says He is willing that no-one should perish. It is not His explicit will.
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    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    It was to the JEWS Jesus was speaking when He said that His kingdom is not of this world and cometh not with observation that we may say lo here it is, or there. They were mistakenly expecting an earthly messiah/king to rule earthly Israel and the world in an earthly kingdom....and Jesus was...
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    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    For someone to talk of the new birth that way, it makes me think it's likely because they have not experienced it. Receiving Christ, the Lord of Heaven no less, to live within us, who miraculously turns our life around, writes His laws on our hearts, translates us from darkness to light and...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Is it ever God's explicit will that anybody should sin? I don't think so, but He foreknows and foresees everything that man and devil would do, and has woven it all into His sovereign purposes, which first and foremost have to do with Satan's rebellion and spiritual war, I believe.
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    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    Jesus came FIRST to the Jew, then the Gentile. Why did the gospel then go the Gentiles? Because Israel rejected it. All part of God's purposes based on His foreknowledge. Romans 11:11...."through their fall salvation is come to the Gentiles". Peter received that revelation from the Lord...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Nobody can measure up in our own selves. But not all will perish. Why....because of God's grace in Christ, freely offered to all and given to whosoever will. That is the gospel.
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    The answer is both, as scripture testifies. But this world is rife with self-centred, man-centred gospels and religions. God's purpose involves us, but it isn't about us. Reminds me of an old song called "You're so Vain"....".you think this is song is about you, don't you, don't you?" Mankind...
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    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole world? Yes, He is Saviour of both Jew and Gentile.........of those who are willing.
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    You're talking and thinking like a man. It's not surprising that you think this is all about us.
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    It is God's omniscient foreknowledge of everyone's hearts and foreknowing how each one would respond to Him, and to the gospel. He foreknew everyone before He created them. How I understand it is that those who He foreknew would reject Him and not repent, He created them anyway....to be...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Wow, so you believe Paul was under the influence of paganism? You don't accept the new testament scriptures? The body we receive is like that of the angels who are able to appear/disappear and when they appear it is in a body.. Jesus said we would be "like the angels". And it is like the...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    I believe the idea of "incineration" as you call it, is a parable/allegory and hyperbole to cause us to feel the urgency of the situation. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth....a torment from seeing what one truly is in the light of the Lord (not a pretty sight) and of knowing one's...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Thankfully, we have His grace..........those who do know Him.