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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I believe He is talking about old covenant versus new covenant. The first covenant was earthly, with earthly blessings and victories....God going out with the armies of Israel. The new covenant is not earthly but spiritual....it is a spiritual army now fighting spiritual battles to overcome...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Like Enoch, translated that he should not see death..? ok yes, thanks, I was thinking of the scripture in 1 Cor 15 that says the body is not quickened except it die. In any case the point stands that we will not have any need of this earth when our bodies are glorified and no longer...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    The disciples at the time they asked Jesus about Israel still did not have much understanding of spiritual things....they were still newbies and the Holy Spirit had not yet been given, but afterwards I'm sure He began to remind them of all the things that Jesus said and give them understanding...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I don't know everything that Amils believe or teach (don't know who sls are)......I've never looked into them other than reading what some have written on this and a previous forum. Maybe you have been lumping me in with them as a group and assuming I believe everything they teach, and many of...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    It's His rightly divided word we need to believe do you not agree? When Jesus was talking about leaven, did He commend His disciples for believing He was talking about bread?
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Well, as I was just saying, I believe it's important that we not be expecting and setting our hopes and affections on anything earthly....that will ensnare souls. Old covenant was all about earthly blessings and new covenant is all about heavenly/spiritual blessings. So yes, I agree we do need...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    This is the verse I was referring to: Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. So it's apparent that the old covenant hadn't yet vanished away when this was written. God gave them time to...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I'm not sure what you mean here brother. But I'm with you in that I don't have a grasp of it all either. I've never said or thought we were in Satan's little season, and don't know why folks keep assuming that I do. Some misunderstanding seems to have arisen somewhere.
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Amen. The more I think about it, the more I believe it's important that we get our eyes and affections off anything to do with this earth. Our hopes are to be above, not on this earth. It's a snare to have our hopes and focus on things to do with this earth. We're all going to die, even...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I suppose they assumed the Messiah would rule whenever He showed up. But the point is they were expecting an earthly messiah-king who would liberate them militarily from the Romans and rule Israel as an earthly kingdom and usher in a golden age of earthly peace that could be observed with the...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    The penny dropped, by the grace of God.......so many scriptures began coming together, one after another. Jesus preaching way back then that the kingdom was nigh......and saying that "If I by the finger of God heal the sick and cast out devils then the kingdom has come to you.".....and that His...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Did I forget to explain? A wrong belief in a future earthly utopia led by an earthly political king is one thing that caused the Jews/Israel to reject Jesus. And it has potential to lead souls to the acceptance of a false political/military messiah. Today's Israel is still looking for an...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I believe we see in 2 Peter 3 a huge hint of what the thousand years of Christ's reign is.......this age of grace......this age of God's longsuffering which we are to account as salvation. Thousand years is also spoken of in the old testament as a watch in the night.........as we are to be...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I agree. :) "Dispensationalism" messes with my head too.
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    It's hard on a forum to tell the difference between teaching and discussing or trying things on for size sometimes though. Even if someone tries to qualify/clarify themselves, if you miss that post or comment, then one can easily misunderstand. Pitfalls of communicating on forums. One thing...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Brother, are you saying we are required to fully grasp all of scripture? And that you do? Isn't there an issue of only knowing in part and of seeing through a glass darkly? All truth matters....all scripture matters, of course. But there are some things that are not foundational which we...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    May the Lord bless you and your family David....and may you be encouraged and empowered to keep up the good work you are doing where you are! That is more important I believe than parsing all the details of eschatology.
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Yes I do believe those things, amen. There are those who are so deceived and carnal minded in their approach that I do doubt their salvation, that either they never knew Christ or that they have fallen away. Christendom is a big mission field of those needing the gospel and to come to Christ...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I just wanted to clarify where I'm coming from, since I'm included in those who people call "Amillennial" (even though as I said, I dont' consider that to be an accurate term.) And I wasn't thinking anyone was doubting my salvation, so don't worry about that, although it's nice to be affirmed...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    It's kind of you to be concerned, and I don't doubt you are sincere. There are perils on this journey to be sure, and that is why we are to test the spirits. We weren't promised a rose garden....we are in a war and there are risks involved in taking ground like in any war......however we serve...