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You're off on a different tangent now. You're off on a different tangent now as has gone this exchange. We've gone from just the covenants and their effectivity points to salvation, and have strayed far from the OP subject which should take the respective covenants into consideration in order...

These are your thoughts not supported by scripture. Nowhere do scriptures say the spirit is inside the soul. The spirit returns to God who gave it. He doesn't give out or distribute souls to anyone; you BECOME a living soul, and similarly upon your death, you become a dead soul. Look up the two...

So there is no old covenant and new covenant as the bible states? Now you're just spewing nonsense.

The truth is comfortable to me. The old covenant was in effect until Jesus death, so the gospel records which chronicled his life and teachings while he was alive, was primarily old covenant. The actual NT or covenant didn't start with Matthew, the actual NT started at Jesus's death. You asked...

It's a response to barney and his question to me relating to his misunderstanding of when the NT actually began

Can't be the old testament saints As I explained, the spirit is not the same as the soul and returns to God who gave it. It would have to have said souls in prison not spirits in prison for your statement to have any validity. .

Read Hebrews 9:15-17 15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16For where a testament is, there must...

Please see my post, "Understanding 1 Peter 3:19" just now posted which addresses this.

Understanding 1 Peter 3:19 (Pertinent scriptures below) Who are the "spirits in prison", in 1 Peter 3:19, and the "dead" in 1 Peter 4:6? First, you must understand the word "spirits" (pneumasin in the Greek) in 1 Peter 3:19 and the use of this word as opposed to 'soul' (psyches in the Greek)...

Scripture says man becomes a living soul. It also makes reference in Revelation 20 to the souls of the dead. The soul is the being you become, the unique individual that you are that has consciousness.

The spirit returns to God, the body back to the ground, but the soul lives on and goes to either paradise with the Lord or hell. That's what the scriptures teach.

What is the question? The book of Jubilees is readily available on line free of charge as is the book of Enoch.

This, as well as other subjects, must be viewed in their proper, relative, context. While Jesus was alive, so was the old covenant active, not the new, which became dominant upon the Lord's death. So it's important to keep things in their respective focus and corresponding pertainence as relates...

Why not?

There is ONE church, the Lord's church of the bible, and that ain't the catholic church: "all churches" implies that the myriad of thousands of denominations are equally viewed as acceptable to God which is totally illogical and makes no sense because they all teach and believe something different.

You didn't address what I said or the parable in Luke and it's meaning. You also assumed things which I did not say or infer. And does "spirits in prison" mean they were in paradise? And yes, at death we depart the body which returns to the earth, the spirit returns to God, and the soul lives...

Luke 16 is a parable and not one that relates to salvation but rather one that cautions about trusting in your wealth and the things of this world and ignoring God and his word. And further there's nothing stated about Lazarus other than he was a beggar: no belief, no faith exhibited, nothing...

You're conflicting dispensations. When Jesus was alive, the OT laws were in effect not the new which ushered in the NT criteria; belief and faith, confession of belief, repentance, and baptism, all required for salvation. The thief, based on his belief and faith was forgiven and saved by the...

Yes, few chosen doesn't mean the countless millions of so-called or self professed Christians in the world that all believe and practice something different and adhere to man contrived doctrine. Matthew 7:14 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and...