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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    The manifestations of the Spirit, gifts, are listed 8-10. Agree, disagree, doesn't matter. That's them
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    It, "the word of knowledge", is listed as one of the gifts, contrary to your assertion. See verse 8 in the below. It's given BY the Spirit, not "comes with the spirit". 1Cor 12:4-10 4Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5And there are differences of administrations, but the...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    It may be your contention, but it's not supported by scripture and is a very weak one. It's very clear that tongues, considered a lesser of the manifestations or gifts of the Spirit, is not the gift of the Spirit spoken of in Acts 2:38. The indwelling of the Spirit itself IS the gift of God...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

    Simply sorting it out in relative terms as most people erroneously misunderstand and misinterpret what was said to the people of that day and time as though it was written to us, or rather, the universal church of today. It wasn't written to us today nor can be assumed to have the same meaning...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    Except this isn't apples and oranges. Gifts mean manifestations although manifestations is the more correct term
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    Please clarify or rewrite. I have no idea what you're trying to say
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    Manifestations of the Spirit are commonly referred to as "gifts" today. I simply used the common word, "gifts", but in reality, gifts of the Spirit and manifestations of the Spirit are one in the same
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    Yes, the gifts of the Spirit is synonymous with manifestations of the Spirit. They are one in the same.
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?

    Not my attempts, it's what the words say and suggest, which words are not mine. At this point in this dialog, believe what you like.
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?

    1 cor12:7 Does that mean every, single, person, or everyone to which a gift has been given according to God's will and purpose as 1 Cor 12:28 and the other scriptures I cited infer? And the other 2 scriptures you cited are irrelevant to the discussion. Yes, all those baptized into the body of...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?

    If you read 1 Cor, it's obvious that they were DESIROUS of spiritual gifts inferring that not all received a gift of some sort when the letter was penned by Paul. Don't forget, it's gifts or manifestations of the Spirit being discussed here and not the Spirit itself which all baptized believers...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?

    Most translations say might, a few say to receive, the Greek interlinear says might receive.
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?

    Not sure what your point is. The power from on high was promised to the 11 apostles per Luke 24:49 and was fulfilled starting with Acts 2 at which time the Spirit manifested itself by falling on them. If you're trying to find significance by how many times the Spirit did such along with Acts 10...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?

    No, I wouldn't agree cuz if you follow the text as I laid out, it appears that it was the apostles, and if so, they were the ones on which the power from on high was bestowed
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    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    Why? Because they're stupid and have been lead astray.
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?

    See post 132 which was a reply to your 126 post but for some reason didn't get posted there
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?

    My view is that you must look atvthe broader text and not just verse 31. If you look at verse 23 and beyond, you see that Peter and John returned to their own, but it's not exactly clear who that was since it's not specifically stated in exact terms. But you then read that they prayed for...
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    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit?

    Don't look at Acts 10 and 2 to justify your statement. Acts 2 and 10 were very unique and not at all the norm, and the Spirit fell unilaterally and miraculously without the laying on of the apostle's hands fir a very good reason: to validate what was occurring in both instances in which the...