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So, using your logic, why are you not claiming the names for each one of the elders - 12 of them being as those in listed in Revelation 7:5-8 ? As far as the 12 apostles - John, the apostle, saw the 24 elders. He would not have seen himself.

I don't claim to know the names of each of the 24 elders It is you who claims to know who the 24 elders are, but can't give the names for each one of them. Your claim to know, therefore, is invalid.

The beast and the false prophet will be cast alive into the lake of fire at Jesus's return in Revelation 19:20. So the beast is not Nero. Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received...

You are speculating. Not being able to give the names of each of the 24 elders means that you have not identified who the individual 24 elders are.

Okay, thanks for the information. So make some timeline charts and post them.

Elon Musk is not a Jew. The beast-king of Revelation must be a Jew. We don't know for sure at this point in time. May be a mark imprinted with a lazer device. Where no hair grows being the reason for the hand or forehead - maybe. May be in the palm of the hand to swipe across a...

specifically..... l a z y. Making timeline charts is essential for understanding and discussing eschatology - the study of the end times - of those who attempt to teach others about the end times. In high school, did your teachers use a black board ? A chart is like a black board.

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I am not Pretrib but anytime rapture view. Anytime before the transgression of desolation act by the Antichrist. For comparison, the pre-trib rapture chart is down below this one.

When you read someone's posts, do you start at the upper left corner of the text and read through down to the lower right hand corner of the text. And finally the last sentence. The same method is used in reading this chart, following the red line. Down in the lower right hand corner of...

You don't make timeline charts and diagrams because you can't. You don't have the computer graphics skills. And don't care to learn. And you are not able to place events on a timeline in relation to other events, nor fit the fifteen end times times frames given in the bible in proper...

2Thessalonains 2:4 is the transgression of desolation act of Daniel 8:13, not the abomination of desolation statue image "set up" in Daniel 12:11-12 placed on the temple mount. Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long...

I said the text does not say who the 24 elders are. You are claiming to know who the 24 elders are, but cannot give the names of each of the 24 elders.

The little horn is a male person referred to as "he" in the text. Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing...

David, Daniel 11:35 covers over two thousand years to the end times. There have been multitudes who have turned to Jesus and the gospel of salvation over the past two thousand years. And in the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 many more multitudes will turn to Jesus and the gospel of...

Daniel 11:35 is a transition verse that covers over 2000 years to the end times. Daniel 11:36 is an end times king. Everything from Daniel 11:36 through Daniel 12:12 is end times. No, I do not ignore that. Daniel 11:31 is a historic abomination of desolation by Antiochus and his...

You have not given the names of each of the 24 elders.

Daniel 11:35 transitions to the time of the end after Antiochus IV and his troops place the (historic) abomination of desolation in Daniel 11:31. To be consistent, the little horn person is time of the end. And the king in Daniel 11:36 is time of the end...

Antiochus IV in Daniel 11:21-31 was not time of the end. Differently, the little horn person in Daniel 8:9-25 is time of the end, Daniel 8:17,

Their activities are highlighted in red. Revelation 4: 6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. 7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast...