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  1. Douggg

    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    I think what the seven thunders said in Revelation 10:4 contained the name of the (AC) beast person. John would have seen the name of the beast all through Revelation 10-19. But because John was told in Revelation 10:4 to not write down what the seven thunders said, John never wrote down...
  2. Douggg

    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Hi David, the vile person in Daniel 11:21-31 is not the future AC because in Daniel 11:30 the person is forced to turn back. That event is recorded in history as what the Romans did to Antiochus IV as Antiochus IV was headed south to make war on the Ptolemaic king of Egypt. Daniel 11:21-31...
  3. Douggg

    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Zao is life, what you wrote above is very confusing as to what you mean. That is probably why you did not get any sort of answer. More very confusing sentences as to what you mean.
  4. Douggg

    Does Daniel 11 Describe King Herod and His Dynasty?

    Randy, I did not mention anything about 7 days. The 70th week of Daniel 9:27 is a week of years.... i.e. the 70th week is 7 years long. In Deuteronomy 31:9-13, Moses established that the Mt. Sinai covenant was to be confirmed on a 7 year cycle. In Deuteronomy 31, the children of Israel...
  5. Douggg

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You are the one who is attempting to change the meaning of Revelation 11 by trying to insert two churches into the text by wrongful rationalization. Oh, so you can not see the consistency of grouping the like time expressions together. Yet, you don't provide any alternative diagram of how...
  6. Douggg

    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    David, by process of elimination from what it says in Daniel 11. The end of the king in Daniel 11:36 will be on the temple mount (the glorious holy mountain) as it says in Daniel 11.45. Did Anticohus IV die there on the temple mount, yes or no ? The answer is no, therefore by process of...
  7. Douggg

    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    David, the little horn person in Daniel 8:9-25 is time of the end, Daniel 8:17. The little horn person in Daniel 8:25 meets his end when he attempts to mar war on the Prince of princes - Jesus. Read the text of Daniel 8:25...
  8. Douggg

    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    David, end times eschatology requires two approaches. 1. the study of the 15 end times times frames listed in the bible - how they fit together. Take a look at my diagram and take note of the time frames from Daniel. There are six of them. From Revelation, there are seven of them. 2...
  9. Douggg

    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    David, the king of Daniel 11:36 meets his end on the glorious holy mountain between the seas, Daniel 11:45. i.e. on the temple mount. Antiochus IV, differently, died in Isfahan in Persia (modern day Iran). So there is a shift from Antiochus IV to the time of the end beast-king in Daniel 11:36.
  10. Douggg

    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Hi David, In Daniel 9, there is a gap of over 2000 years between Daniel 9:26 the destruction of the city and temple - and Daniel 9:27 the 7 years 70th week. Revelation has the 7 years in it. As does Ezekiel 39:9 the 7 years following the Gog/Magog event. The consistency is that the end...
  11. Douggg

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The words "church", "churches" are not in the text of Revelation 11. You are (wrongfully) rationalizing that there are two churches in Revelation 11.
  12. Douggg

    Does Daniel 11 Describe King Herod and His Dynasty?

    The covenant in Daniel 9:27 to be confirmed for 7 years will be the Mt Sinai covenant. Moses made a requirement to confirm the Mt Sinai covenant on a 7 year cycle by making a speech to the nation of Israel that God gave the children of Israel the land of Israel as theirs forever...
  13. Douggg

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Because in Revelation 1:20 the candlesticks represent the seven Churches of Asia minor. And in Revelation 11:4 the candlesticks represent the two witnesses. The metaphorical use of candlesticks means to be a light unto the nations. Which my interpretation is consistent with. Also my...
  14. Douggg

    Does Daniel 11 Describe King Herod and His Dynasty?

    Hi Randy, yes, we disagree over what is meant by time of the end in Daniel 11:35. And thanks for expressing your view without the inflammatory remarks that some of the other posters here use. In his post #69, @CTK made the valid point... "The book of Daniel is extremely difficult to...
  15. Douggg

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    No, no-one thinks the two witnesses are literally two trees. The two witnesses are two individual persons who are metaphorically referred to as to two candlesticks and two olive trees. Why are you trying so hard to insert two churches into Revelation 11 when churches are not mentioned in...
  16. Douggg

    Does Daniel 11 Describe King Herod and His Dynasty?

    Hi Randy, verse 35 transitions to the time of the end. Antiochus IV, I agree did commit the historic abomination of desolation of his day in Daniel 11:31. But Antiochus IV did not live in the time of the end. Verse 36 picks up at the time of end with the beast-king of Revelation 13...
  17. Douggg

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The text of Revelation does not say that candlesticks universally represent churches. Just as stars do not universally represent angels. Revelation 2:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in...
  18. Douggg

    Does Daniel 11 Describe King Herod and His Dynasty?

    Hi Exegesis, I don't know what you mean by parroting what someone else said. That Antiochus IV Epiphanes committed the abomination of desolation of Daniel 11:31 is a matter of historical record from sources like wikipedia on Antiochus IV Epiphanes. Daniel 11 does not begin the end times until...
  19. Douggg

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I never said that the two witnesses - two persons - are two candlesticks/churches. The text does not have the word church in it. The word church is not in Revelation 11. Revelation 11: 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and...
  20. Douggg

    Does Daniel 11 Describe King Herod and His Dynasty?

    @Exegesis I went to wikipedia and came up with this list of rulers of the Ptolemaic empire (Egyptian rulers). There are more than on this list, but I stopped with the one ruling at the time Antiochus IV Epiphanes, as the (historic) abomination of desolation of Daniel 11:31 was during...