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There are two LOGOI.

He is not the only one. He did not pre-exist. The HS is the begetter; this implies a spirit that is a father. Close to fully grown up at the least. This is sensitive information. Mary gave birth to a boy.

But perhaps you are delusional as you suggest.

I will never believe in globalism like the JWs ...?

Sarx does not include muscle. The worder Jesus who is the son of the worder YHWH, the highest God. It created another word(er) Yeshua.

I need the real deal, and not your translational delusions. ONE MORE THING. I am a not a JW. Never will be one

I used a Lexicon. Thayer's which is standard on every BLB page. [And BDB for the Hebrew.]

It is not what you believe which is all-important; it is what you do righteously that God cares about. The poor good Samaritan.

Even the pagans believed in Man-gods.

He had a son, but the passage doesn't anything Ignatius of Antioch or Valentinus of Rome has said about him.

[A worder.] Worders there are more than one in the NT. [Mat 24:35 KJV] 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 24:35 ὁ οὐρανὸς καὶ ἡ γῆ παρελεύσονται, οἱ δὲ λόγοι μου οὐ μὴ παρέλθωσιν [Mar 13:31 KJV] 31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not...

JOHN 1 Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος In the beggining, it was a word(er), and a word(er) it was with a God, and the God, it was. 2 ὁ λόγος οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν A worder another it was. In the beginning with a God, etc et cetera. .... 14 Καὶ ὁ...

Benton's copies the King James Bible and ignores the LXX where the father is speaking. ", because I will lead onto the leaders thepeace. ?and father them?" ἐγὼ γὰρ ἄξω εἰρήνην ἐπὶ τοὺς ἄρχοντας εἰρήνην καὶ ?ὑγίειαν? αὐτῷ. But this isn't what the Hebrew says either.

Because it is a good starting point for the Lexicon. Yes, I know Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek.

Actually, it says "... and God, it was." The worder was the God name.

@rebuilder 454 Here's a hint. Counsellor, h3289 Inflected: יוֹעֵץ Root: יָעַץ Strong's: H3289 English: Counsellor, Language: Hebrew Code: H Vqrmsa Vqrmsa Word: יוֹעֵץ Speech: Verb Stem: Qal Type: Participle Active Gender: Masculine Number: Singular State...

How would you know? You don't know Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek.

I know you don't understand what a participle is, especially in an ancient language. I know you didn't analyze it in the Blue Letter Bible.

Yes, a worder became flesh. Nothing supernatural there except a virgin birth. I said the counselor is a participle. You ignored looking it up in the Blue Letter Bible.

Isiaiah did not such thing. Look up councilor in the BLB you find the word is a participle. He either consults or councils the everlasting father. The permanent father is the God of the final messiah.