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"No, because the messages to the churches are separate from the heavenly scene. Failure to see a distinction will always result in improper understanding. When you realize Ch.5 is a past event when Christ entered heaven and John witnessing it, everything else will open up. But you don’t, and...

Thanks!!!!! The church raptured = The dead in Christ and the remnant bride (half the church). The foolish virgins ( the other half left behind) get in through martyrdom,because they refuse the mark. the 144k in heaven (raptured or martyred) right before those harvested with a sickle are...

https://www.bibletools.org/ 2 Thessalonians 2:3 "The falling away" is a translation of the Greek apostasia, meaning "departure," "forsaking," "defection," or "apostasy." In secular Greek, the word "is used politically of rebels" (Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, p. 413)...

God's people removed prejudgement 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until...

The 4 horsemen begin the GT Rev 6 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth...

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Either side of the debate can use it for their talking points. It could mean "departure from the faith" or just what it says "departure" But all it really says is "departure" (literally "from standing") But "from the faith" is implied. The real issue is that pretribbers can just read it like it...

Yes It simply means "departure" Probably the rapture, but if postribbers go with "from the faith" it really has no bearing on the debate. As if there is not a huge massive falling away right now. The actual focus should be on the word "revealed" The fact that it ONLY implies a window of...