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Continued from above... I agree, but I would switch the order. Faith, which is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8), comes first, and then our repentance inevitably follows; Paul says it's God's kindness, His grace, that leads us to repentance. And this leading us to repentance is ongoing; our...

I'm not; they do; yes, I'm an unapologetic five-point Calvinist. :) But hey, by the same token, your interpretations "match up with" Arminianism. The words of Stephen himself, and those he's speaking in the same context as, which are those of Isaiah, as I said. Well, since I cited that...

I think you're being a little to particular with words, which is my point to you. He's right in the way I described, although ~ you're right about this I think ~ he's taking it to a degree, it seems, that's beyond what the Scriptures say, maybe way beyond. Which of course would not be a good...

Well, I decided to cut in, and I did it of my own free will and accord. :) I don't care. :) I'm kinda having a little fun with you, SI. Do what you want, but things are a lot better all the way around when you, you know, don't take yourself so seriously. :) Grace and peace to you.

Okay, well I'm surprised you do. :) I wouldn't say I'm "shocked" at your concurrence, but pleasantly surprised. How about let's get off your little superiority horse ~ you get that, right? Little, and superiority, which is a misnomer of sorts, completely negating the superiority part... :) ~...

The Light: You are correct. I'm not mistaken. No, he/she is not lying on purpose. Lying is always a purposeful act... :) But now he/she is mistaken about not being mistaken... :) Grace and peace to all.

I'm... not. If you perceive it that way, that's... unfortunate. I'm actually offering a word to the wise. :) Sure, but that's not an accurate depiction of what you did, SI. Fair enough. But why not give him/her the benefit of the doubt? Or just keep it to yourself? Why call him/her a...

Well, I would say the exact same of you. Oh, what you said was perfectly clear. However... :) It does. It does. Sure. Sure. But that's not the only place in Revelation where we see ~ or understand Jesus's return to be imminent, happening, or to have occurred. Which is starting to get at...

Okay, I understand. "Bothered?" No, not I. I'm just saying Christians should treat other Christians in the manner you did. No need to be so defensive. I just don't think on this board anybody should be sniping at anybody, as we are all Christians. Yeah, a Christian calling another...

Disagree. I say that just because "great tribulation" is used by Jesus in Matthew 24 and John in Revelation 7 is not sufficient reason to deduce that they are talking about the same thing, the very same time period. I say, as I said before, that yes, there will be great tribulation such as has...

Well good. :) But that's not what Revelation 7 is talking about, really, The Light. All the saints of God are in view in Revelation 7, from all time. There will be a great ramping up of the tribulation of God's people just before Jesus returns. But the "great tribulation" of Revelation...

Nope. This understanding comes, at least to some degree, because true knowledge and wisdom are gifts of the Spirit and apportioned to believers as God wills: "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; and there are varieties...

Oh boy... :) Yeah I'm not... "promoting Calvinism," per se... but rather, God's Word. It is what it is... :) Alas, you may accuse me of lying or being mistaken, but... :) And what were they resisting the Holy Spirit, SI? Well, yes, the Holy Spirit, but Stephen is not talking about them...

Actually... you are both right. :) My question to both of you is, is there no tribulation prior to this great tribulation just before Jesus comes/returns? :) Grace and peace to you both.

That might very well be your perception. I just showed you the difference between the KJV and the ES ~ between which there is no difference ~ and the fact that one has 'the' in there (the ESV) and the other doesn't. So just regarding the words, no, that's not a lie. If someone were to say...

My question is, why are there some who, when a person is mistaken about something, automatically accuse them of lying? Being mistaken and bearing false witness are two very different things. Well, I think Christians ~ well, people in general ~ should know the difference between being...

No, you're making an erroneous "point." No one can choose to be born of the Spirit, just as none of us could have possibly chosen to be physically born of our earthly mother and father. Either God gives this second birth ~ which is by and of Himself in the person of the Holy Spirit, of course...

They were not. They... like you and I... had been born again of the Spirit. For them long before, during their lifetime, and for us long after, in ours. In Ephesians 2:4-10, Paul is referring directly to what the prophet Ezekiel had said long before, even long before Jesus was born of Mary...

Non-Christians do not have a second birth or the resulting first resurrection, Timtofly. They remain dead in their sin. Absolutely not. See above. LOL! Whuuuuuut? Dear God. This it totally ridiculous. LOL!!! See above... The second. :) The first resurrection is the spiritual...

In your opinion. Fair enough, but it is what it is. I never said it did. No, because the second birth and the first resurrection, though very, very close together, are not the same thing. That they are so very close together makes it acceptable to say that they are together one event, but...