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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    You are not harmonizing scripture. Do you think all the elements of salvation are listed every time and in every related scripture? They are not. You must put all the elements together as extracted from all related scriptures to get the entire picture. No different than reading all 4 gospels to...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Just one small but important point of clarification for you. It's by water baptism that you receive the gift of the spirit and are added to the Lord's body, the church per Acts 2:38-47. You don't receive the sprit any other way, and the only way instances that the spirit fell unilaterally were...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    What's sad is when people reject plain scripture as you obviously do.
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Meaningless words won't undo the scriptures. They say what they say which you've not addressed by your meaningless words. Goodbye
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    That's not what the scriptures teach. Tell that to Peter (ref. 1Peter 3:20-1), and the Lord (ref. Mark 16:15-16). And how do you think you get "in Christ". It's by being baptized into him according to scripture.
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    What is the one true Church?

    It's the one that the Lord adds you to upon baptism pursuant to Acts 2:47, and that's the one that teaches the following to be saved and added as aforementioned: 1. Belief and faith 2. Confession of belief as did the Ethiopian eunuch and in accordance with Romans 10:9 3. Repentance as was...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Believe what you like but the plain and simple words don't lie. Clue: you are clueless
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Well, that's not what Peter said, nor Jesus as recoreded in Mark 16:15-16. So, should one today believe you, or the words of Peter and the Lord? Only the silly ones will believe you as opposed to them.
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Baptism saves, period because that's what tge scriptures say. How does one become part of the Lord's body and member of the church according to scripture? How are you buried with Christ to like be risen with him?
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    There remains no sacrifice for sins . . .

    I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    And that was the statement made by Jesus to the APOSTLES in Luke 24:49. And THEY did receive power from on high as recorded in Acts 2. The power was meant for THEM, and was manifested through THEM in the form of the gifts of the Spirit, those listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10, by the laying on of THEIR hands.
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    There remains no sacrifice for sins . . .

    Don't read this out of context. It relates to sacrifices for sin under the old covenant as opposed to the one-time sacrifice for sin that Christ made. And once you have the knowledge of the truth of Christ there is no more sacrifice for sin under the old covenant nor is any necessary which is...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Baptism is the method by which you're saved after belief. It also places you in the body of Christ which is his church. If you're not part of the body of Christ and your sins are not forgiven the answer is obvious.
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    You make no sense and apparently choose to ignor the plain and concise language of the bible. Believe what you like. Goodbye
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Being born of water leads you to the spirit. It's by baptism, also as stated in Acts 2:38, that you receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit by which you are truly born.
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    You are wrong. First of all, the passage you're referring to, 1 Cor 12:13, that was noted in my previous post copied from the kjv which I typically read, says "by one spirit", is a poor translation. See the interlinear wherein it states "in one spirit". Also, the one baptism is water baptism...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Water baptism into Christ is required under the NT. My point was not that water baptism isn't required but just not under the OT as a requirement for salvation. It's a moot point and shouldn't enter the discussion as pertains to the thief on the cross which is the point I was making and...
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    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    If you believe then you'll follow through with your belief and obey the commandments. If you don't believe then you'll do nothing. It doesn't have to specifically say but it doesn't have to either, it's simply logical and makes common sense. Also the scripture says "baptism doth now save us", 1...
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    How to teach : Salvation #2

    You're straight out wrong and do not understand the plain language of the scriptures. Goodbye
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    Was the Thief on the Cross Baptized or Not?

    You're missing the point. It's not that the thief was saved ir forgiven by following old covenant ritual criteria, but rather that Jesus forgave him as he did others during his earthly ministry such as the adulterous woman. The NT did not take effect until Jesus died so baptism is totally...