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Baptism is an irrelevant question as relates to the thief. Jesus was still alive so he was saved and forgiven during the old covenant. Baptism did not become a requirement until the NT. And baptism is not a public declaration of anything. The bible doesn't say or infer that. Who was the...

You, I think, are missing the point. Salvation is s free gift but that doesn't mean everyone will receive the gift. In order to receive the free gift of salvation you must do something in order to get it. If you do nothing and ignor the commands necessary to receive it, you'll not get it.

A gift to who? Those that believe and obey. And obedience requires that you do something which us what the scriptures say and teach and is what I outlined for you. It is a process.

Salvation is being saved and to be saved is a process. You must 1st believe and have faith. You must confess your belief as did the Ethiopian eunuch as recorded in Acts 8 and consistent with Romans 10:9. You must repent as were ge jews told to do on the day of Pentecost as per Acts 2:38. And...

And even if the thief was baptized, it would have been unto John's baptism. He couldn't have possibly been baptized into Christ because Christ was still alive. It would have been no different than the Ephesians who were properly baptized into Christ once they were made aware.

It's easy! When he opens his mouth.

The thief was saved when Jesus forgave him not when or just because he confessed his belief. A person then or now is not saved by belief and confession of their belief. Then it required Jesus forgiveness. Now we have more that's required of us according to NT scriptures including repentance and...

I've posted thus clarification previously which should address this. The thief on the cross misconceptions I continually encounter people trying to justify that baptism is not an absolute necessity for one's salvation by use (erroneously) of the thief on the cross as justification, as he was...

God for sure removes them IF we are obedient and follow his commands. Like I said, you are out to lunch. Believe whatever nonsense you like. Goodbye

You guys are out to lunch. What are we saved from? Our past sins; and you aren't saved until they're removed. And how is that done according to the scriptures? It's not by belief or faith only, nor by repentance or confession only.

If you read a little further in 1 Cor you'll see what Paul meant by stating he was not sent to baptize but to preach. Read 1 Cor 3:6-9. There it says Paul preached and Apollos watered.

Thnx but the warning to me is not necessary. I've been a baptized believer for almost 50yrs.

Post 189 is a valid response. Goodbye

No, what's stupid is the unscriptural idea of original sin that man has dreamt up which further propagated other equally stupid ideas such as pouring water on infants as a supposed form of baptism followed by the unscriptural idea of after-the-fact confirmation of belief which is backwards as...

Jesus was a new born infant too at some point; did he have or was he guilty of so-called "original sin" simply because he was born? Original sin is nonsense. Sin must be committed. It's a transgression.

You make no sense. It'd be the same conscience choice required to willfully commit sin which they, infants, cannot do. Therefore, there's nothing to be removed. There's no such thing as origin sin. It's unscriptural man made-up nonsense.

The process is the process; it doesn't change. It requires belief and faith, confession of your belief, repentance, and water baptism for the forgiveness of your sins. That's the process.

The New Testament or covenant didn't begin until after his death (read Hebrews 9:16-17); so, all his words and actions were under the old covenant which was done away with upon the new covenant/testament being established.

No. Zero

The church is the body of Christ. You don't join the body (the church), but you are rather added to it by the Lord upon being baptized in his name after which you are added to the body by him. Read Acts 2:38-47