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  1. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    I see in the OT where God said Israel would be kings and priests. True, Hebrews and Peter mention a priesthood, but both of those are written specifically to Christian Jews and as such use Jewish ideas with which they were familiar. Paul never called the body, i.e. Cristians, priests or kings...
  2. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    I don't think it differs. That's was my point. The other places where it's used don't indicate we need to take it as some hidden spiritual meaning. Maybe I misunderstood you, or maybe the other way around. Not an unheard of situation on these forums. :)
  3. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    You got me thinking. God made a covenant with a very real group of actual people. God bound Himself to do for those people that which He said H I looked at Vine's. There are actually several secrets, but the one you and I are discussing (I thing anyway) is under (c) and (d). (c) the Church...
  4. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    It's God's word so I already pay plenty of attention. But I'd still be interested in hearing why you think the word "signify" in Rev 1:1 means something other than what it means in the other verses I quoted. Do you think it mean we shouldn't take the rest of Revelation for saying what they say...
  5. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    You want to compare my tongue in cheek reply to the golden calf (the actual context or verse 12)? I know you have studied for some time, and I like much of what you post. If you don't mind, I'd like to hear your take on the secret God kept hidden until he revealed it to Paul. How do you see it...
  6. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    All the verses you quoted are obviously true, but they have a context. The overall context of Romans is stated in Romans 16:25. Namely, Romans is all about the mystery, which is better translated as "secret." In any case it was a secret until God revealed it to Paul. The revelation of that...
  7. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    Ezek 36:22, Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not [this] for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. Ezek 36:26, A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put...
  8. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    I think I know what you are saying, but could you elaborate? How does this whole new level change the meaning of the word "signify" in Rev 1:1 from how it is used in many other verses? I see no reason at all to change it's meaning. If I'm missing something, please let me know. Thanks!
  9. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    If I understand you correctly, you don't take the plain meaning of words for what they say? It seems you added a lot to a rather simple statement. I'm not sure that the words that Jesus spoke mean anything other than that he came only for the lost sheep of Israel. Why change that into, "Israel...
  10. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    Jesus came for Israel, not for Christians (Matt 15:24). In fact there were no Christians when Jesus was here, so he wasn't referring to them in his answer to Nicodemus. When Jesus was here, he didn't even know about the secret. That is why in his speech on the coming tribulation he said some of...
  11. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    I think you're right in saying Paul had hope they'd stop being carnal and grow up in the Lord. Otherwise he would have just let them stay where they were. Obviously he cared very much for them. He certainly wasn't writing them off as a bunch of losers who would be nothing more in the future...
  12. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    I think you made some very good observations. And yet: 1 Cor 1:10, Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there be no divisions among you; but [that] ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same...
  13. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    Not to say Jesus is or isn't God, but I will point out a few things regarding your post. Gen 23:12, And Abraham bowed down himself before the people of the land. "bowed down" = H7812 שָׁחָה shachah (shaw-chaw') v. 1. to depress, crouch. 2. (especially reflexive) to fall prostrate to (in...
  14. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    I'd never dare say who is a Christian and who isn't based on anything other than Romans 10:9-10 where it says that if one confesses Jesus as Lord and believes God raised him from the dead, that person is saved, Furthermore, according to 1 Peter 1:23, said person is born again of incorruptible...
  15. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    You bring up some very good ideas that got me thinking about the subject. With the scientific advancements we've made since Moses penned Genesis, it is rather obvious that the description on how God made the universe was not written in order to conform to modern science. While our science can...
  16. Rich R

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so" (Mark Twain).

    God wrote to a people who lived about 3,000 years before the present time, whose worldview was radically different than our own, and whose culture was equally radically different than our own. I wonder if they would have had any discussions about the scriptures being literal or not? And what...
  17. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Building a doctrine on one word, "signify" in this case, is not a good idea. There are roughly 750,000 words (depending of course on the translation) in the Bible and they should all be considered when building a doctrine. John 12:33, This he said, signifying what death he should die. Taken...
  18. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    I think Revelation 19 says Jesus will come from heaven and battle kings on the earth. After that I don't see where he goes back to heaven. Revelations 20 (see verse 8) also appears to take place on the earth. At least that seems to be what the plain language says. Now if we want to spiritualize...
  19. Rich R

    There is no spiritual gift called "the gift of tongues".

    It's kind of mind boggling what KJV translators did sometimes: Exod 6:2-3, 2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I [am] the LORD: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. In verse 2 they...
  20. Rich R

    There is no spiritual gift called "the gift of tongues".

    Good post! I have one observation that may be relevant: 1 Cor 12:7-10, 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same...