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  1. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Exactly. Regarding Luke 20:21; I just did a teaching on comparing a couple dozen religions (Buddhism, Islam, Hindu, et. al.), with the Bible. All non Biblical religions are all about what people must do for God to reach some form of good afterlife, which afterlife varies with the particular...
  2. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Sorry, but I'm not sure what P1 is.
  3. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    John 9:5 has been translated basically two different ways. Rom 9:5 (KJV), Whose [are] the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ [came], who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. KJV and others make, "God blessed for ever" a separate doxology to God. Punctuation is key...
  4. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Well, those are certainly good verses. I wonder how they fit in with 1 Cor 8:6 and John 17:3. Maybe something to do with agency idea I mentioned? I don't know. But they got fit somehow. God certainly didn't contradict Himself. If He did we're all sunk! :)
  5. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Jesus was sent by God to be our savior (including me). It says just that in several places. Jesus was God's representative or agent. It may be worth while investigating how the Jews understood such agency. Suffice it to say, to them an agent was considered virtually identical in authority to the...
  6. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    What did I say that would make you ask such a question?
  7. Rich R

    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    As you said the Bible does not record anywhere that Jesus actually say, "I am God." Now I don't want to come out and say Jesus is not God, but it does seem rather odd to me that such a fundamental doctrine would not be clearly spelled out. Many say our very salvation depends on a doctrine that...
  8. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Yes. I understand what you say to be true and a currently accepted doctrine in much of the modern orthodox church. However, I think a key element here is you saying, "...most of it's (the church) history..." Most is not the same as all. I would suggest that the 1st century Apostles themselves...
  9. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    You are correct. I've said just that myself at some point. Gentiles are fellowheirs with Israel. Would you say that is quite a different thing than saying they (or anybody else) "replaced" Israel?
  10. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    If I understand you correctly, you are taking Rev 1:1 at face value, i.e. literal, not as figurative. Is that a fair assessment?
  11. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Sidestepping? Maybe you just don't like my responses? BTW, I think you may have sidestepped my post #88. Not that I care or that it makes you some kind of bad person. Just saying.
  12. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    You've done that which you accuse me of, i.e. sidestepping and not answering questions. Your answer does not address the questions I posed to you. How do you know the Gentiles in the OT weren't an allegory for the fallen angels? If all of Revelation is and allegory, why do you believe in a...
  13. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Is all of Revelation to be taken allegorically? If so, why do you believe in a real new heaven and earth? Couldn't that be talking about a new grand city built in the Amazon rain forest?
  14. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    How do you know the Gentiles in the OT weren't an allegory for the fallen angels? And maybe Jesus didn't really come to the earth until the day of Pentecost and that he is still here, that the crucifixion was actually the day Columbus "discovered" America and he won't rise from the dead until...
  15. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    I'll have to study that. As you said, there is much debate on the issue. Plus, remember I said a while ago that I don't understand everything in the Bible.
  16. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    I guess I didn't, but I'll give it a go now. I don't know. It is unclear to me. It is certainly not as clear as God promising Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and others a land they could see with their eyes.
  17. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Isaiah 65:20 says people will still die, albeit they will live much longer lives. To me that sounds more like the 1,000 millennial kingdom than the everlasting kingdom. Rev 21:4, talking about the everlasting kingdom, says there will be no more death. Yes God made many promises to Israel that...
  18. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    If that is true, then what is the justification for saying we are in the 1,000 year kingdom now. Could not someone else say that it occurred in the Days of Abraham, or Noah, or Moses and ended with Isaiah? It it's figurative what would prevent such a doctrine? Once we abandon the face value of...
  19. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Yes, there are such cases. As you say, there are figures of speech which are legitimate tools of grammar to emphasize something. But not every number in the Bible is a figure of speech. Sometimes they mean what they say. In order to rightly divide the word of truth, we must be careful not to...
  20. Rich R

    Understanding the The 1000 Year Millennium in Prophecy

    Gen 13:14-15, 14 And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: 15 For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever...