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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    That which transforms man so that he can partake in the nature of God. I will give it more thought but that's off the top of my head. In my understanding the transformation is the reception of the new nature not a gradual moral improvement. How do you explain the difference between the average...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    A lot of the early writings were apologetics, to keep out the heresies that were forcing themselves into the church. We have to remember this. So they had to use non biblical terminology at times to differentiate the ideas disputed. They made clear that the energies of God were separate from His...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    No theology is perfect, they all have inconsistencies say theologians, at varying degrees, but l believe that if we do a pick and mix, which is what many do these days and may l say without offending, the method you lay out, we are using ourselves as the authority, which is what Protestantism...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Well sort of. As brother Johann has pointed out the early church had an understanding about sharing in the energies of God. Being partakers of the divine nature, not expected in western doctors of theology.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    If what you said was true, then there would not be thousands of denominations. I agree that scripture interprets scripture, but the theology we are drawn to has a huge impact on us. I saw that so clearly when my theology did a flip when seeing Calvinism was ignoring so many texts. We become...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    This idea of not being able to stay in it till maturity is the stage before we become pillars in the temple of going in and out no more. Sorry no ref till l get my pc back tomorrow hopefully. And thanks for prayers, the vertigo has gone!
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Calling it entire sanctification, l think that we fall back to being sanctified. That is to say that we can not sin deliberately but unable to avoid unintentional sin. I think now that it was the stage of being discipled after being called by God. The EFF call it Purgation, the period when we...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    PC in for repair sigh.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    We are made right with God through faith and then it is up to us to co-operative with the pricks to our conscience. If we ignore them which most do, we will end up compromising with sin and lose the first love we had for Him. The whole of scripture pleads with God's people to return and repent...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I also wish to apologise most sincerely that l was rather short a few times yesterday. Sorry.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Not getting much sleep. I thought l would enlarge on what l have said @marks on losing the blessing. I have read of the phenomenon in Wesley writings where John would go out and investigate cases professing ES. It is hard for the inexperienced to avoid slipping into what scripture calls leaning...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Growing within holiness then.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    You would call it saved. I did at the time.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Agreed. Nothing is valid if is not in a scripture. But as we often disagree on interpretation, we need another source of authority to check and where better than those who lived nearest the apostles. Please pray for me brothers l am under attack. Just developed severe vertigo today.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Once l believe.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Sorry for the offence. A clean conscience is how to be close to Him.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Can't get on my pc till l find the disk. I think l did give you some
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I am sure of my salvation. If l die tonight the Lord knows my heart.