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Ummm--aren't you bringing racism into this yourself by proposing that it means the end of the Jewish race? What does that even mean? That there is only the Gentile race remaining after that? There are only Jews and Gentiles, right? If the Jewish race no longer exists at some point, that...

Nothing like an OP using a straw man as an argument. As if Premils are so stupid to think to inherit the kingdom of God is temporary instead of forever once inheriting it. After all, you are arguing that Premils have flesh and blood mortals inheriting the kingdom of God during the millennium...

Here's something to factor in, in regards to peace and safety being proclaimed, then the DOTL coming upon them suddenly. Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall...

Which then leads to something totally illogical, that the DOTL is now involving great tribulation per this proposed scenario. Except Matthew 24:29 places the DOTL after great tribulation. Not to mention, as if it makes sense to apply 2 Peter 3:10-12 at the beginning of great tribulation rather...

LOL. Why wouldn't you agree with him? It's not like some of us are surprised by that. After all, your interpretation of some of the Discourse also defies logic. What matters is, is not your view nor @Spiritual Israelite view of Matthew 24:21. What matters is, what is Jesus' view of it? That's...

It doesn't sound like that to me in Luke 21, though. Luke 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by. 10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 11...

You don't get it. Probably never will. At least not in this lifetime. One doesn't have to explain what those things mean if not meaning in the literal sense. Everything else I have been arguing already proves it's not literal events involving 70 AD. Arguments, such as. Matthew 24:21 and Daniel...

By Preterists I'm not meaning full Preterists in this case. I'm meaning anyone that is interpreting the Discourse from start to finish and applying all of it to the first century only. None of these Preterists I have in mind think Jesus returned in 70 AD. They still believe He returns in the end...

Apparently, even non-Pretribbers do that at times as well. In Luke 21 Jesus calls it wrath. In Matthew 24 He calls it tribulation. If Luke's account is involving unbelieving Jews, that would mean the wrath is God's wrath. If the tribulation in Matthew 24 is involving persecuting the church...

Apparently, the way @Spiritual Israelite and some others interpret 'τότε' at the beginning of verse 23 is that nothing previously mentioned explains it. That nothing previously mentioned is pertaining to the same context that verses 23-26 are involving. As in, once verses 15-21 are fulfilled...

I will try and address some of your concerns later. In the meantime, what I was proposing in that last paragraph in the post you were replying to, actually, assuming Amil is the correct view, though I have my doubts, it's possible that Matthew 24:15-26 can be explaining satan's little season...

Why are you including this---and the abomination of desolation was standing in the holy place)? What AOD standing in the holy place allegedly in the first century pertaining to the 2nd temple? What would that have looked like to them at the time? It has to look like something to them if when...

In Matthew 24 Jesus places that in the beginning of great tribulation. The beginning of great tribulation is not the end of the world meant in Matthew 13. I don't know why this subject is being brought up since it has zero to do with the end of this world in neither Luke 17 nor Matthew 24? But...

Matthew 25:14 ¶For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. 15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his...

The following are solely my thoughts and conclusions except I let chatgpt rewrite them for me in order to at least be easier to follow, if nothing else. And this is in regards to the parable of the net in Matthew 13, that this allegedly proves the tares are meaning all the lost in general...

Though, you have a valid point here, how do you get past all of the following then? Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: When this is initially true, the following isn't even true yet...

And look at the contradictions that went away by understanding these things in this manner. By sticking to context and by sticking to reality, since there is no such thing in the agricultural world where tares can somehow be transformed into wheat, now repentant atheists, for example, can be...

What we have to keep in mind here, that works both ways. Well except in @Spiritual Israelite case. He is obviously an exception in this case. He always seems to be able to find ways around things others are unable to find ways around. The fact I do take verse 14 to be meaning the end of this...

I submitted the following to chatgpt to get it's opinion. -------------- Me: An interpreter is arguing with another interpreter who insists dual fulfillments are found in the Bible and that this other interpreter is arguing against the concept of dual fulfillments in the Bible. This same...

I appreciate your honesty by admitting that you would be unable to make sense of verses 15-21 if verse 14 is meaning the end of this age.