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What you two are arguing about is further proof that the thousand years and satan's little season couldn't possibly mean before the 2nd coming. Because if it is, there goes connecting the first resurrection with salvation out the window. Every single saved person, thus those that have part in...

One thing that might be in your favor, all of the last 7 vials of wrath are involving the day of the Lord. In my view anyway. Some of those vials being poured out are obviously meaning before Christ bodily returns, and is obviously involving more than a literal single day. Some argue that only...

Amils are backwards in their thinking at times. You bind someone not already bound, not someone already bound. Someone already bound doesn't need to be bound, because they are already bound. Do you not realize that binding the strongman is applicable all throughout the church age and that it can...

First you complain about me misrepresenting your view, then you turn right around and misrepresent my view. As if I believe that John 12:48 is involving Revelation 20:11-15 to begin with. More on that in a moment. But come on man, just because I asked a question like that does not mean I think...

In my view the last day is an era of time involving more than a mere 24 hour day. And that it begins with Christ's 2nd coming. Since it is more than 24 hours to begin with, what then is the issue with the thousand years being part of the last day? That aside. John 12:48 He that rejecteth me...

I might not fully agree with you about some of these things, but how could you possibly be wrong about Daniel 7:12? The context is the little horn being given to the burning flame. That has not happened in history at any time. The text plainly indicates that when the little horn is given to the...

Does this mean you think the day of the Lord begins at the end of the thousand years at the beginning of satan's little season, rather than at the end of satan's little season like many other Amils typically do? Why this matters is because of what 2 Peter 3 records, for one. 2 Peter 3:9 The...

Most Amils, if not all Amils, are notorious for ignoring the following, though. till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season(Revelation 20:3) And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison(Revelation 20:7)...

Like I indicated per that on 2nd thought in that other post I made, you could be correct. The more I think about it though, the man of sin is revealed before Christ comes, but that it is His coming that destroys that Wicked. Instead of His coming reveals that Wicked.

I tend to think that Amils mean by eternity is simply this, outside of time. Which then doesn't have to involve the NHNE since outside of time is already relevant right now except we are not in the NHNE yet. But even so, assuming Amils are interpreting it in that manner, it still contradicts...

I don't know if it matters in this case, but 1 John 2:18 doesn't use parousia, it uses erchomai. The theme in both 1 Thessalonians and 2 Thessalonians pertaining to parousia is in regards to Christ's coming. It then stands to reason, in my mind anyway, the coming meant in verse 9 is Christ's...

Somehow I think your point likely has to do with a thread I started sometime ago involving the NHNE and the the thousand years being the first thousand years of the never ending NHNE.

How does the following help Amil? 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world...

Doesn't Revelation 19 tell us when that Wicked is revealed? If Revelation 19 involves Christ's bodily second coming like many of us tend to believe, and that 2 Thessalonians 2:8 is pertaining to Revelation 19:21, how then can that Wicked already be revealed if 2nd 2nd coming has to happen first...

Too bad Jesus doesn't claim that as well, in John 12:48, for instance. Amils then believe eternity has a last day? Talk about something worthy of a LOL. As if eternity, IOW, outside of time, involves days, let alone a last day. As if eternity can somehow end rather than continue forever. John...

I don't understand what you are arguing in the OP? It seems to me, in order for Christ to come, it obviously involves His presence. His literal bodily presence. Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming(parousia) of the...

Obviously, they are. All one has to do is look up the Greek word used for 'that wicked' and it is crystal clear that that same Greek word is never applied to satan. anomos an'-om-os from a - a 1 (as a negative particle) and nomoV - nomos 3551; lawless, i.e. (negatively) not subject to (the...

If the context per verses 9-11 involve Revelation 19:20, and assuming Amil is the correct view, though I disagree it is, that would make verses 9-11 be right before 1 Corinthians 15:28 is fulfilled. Per a context like that no one would care what happened to the rest of the beasts in history...

No, I did not know that. I'm that stupid, that I think chagpt is a Bible scholar. Every opportunity that you can, you thrive on insulting my intelligence. You just can't seem to resist, as if I am so stupid that I don't even have a clue what chagpt is. I'm willing to bet I know far far more...

For example. Don't know how long you have been reading the Bible, but however long it's been, not one single time have you ever compared Revelation 6 and the 6th seal with that of Matthew 24:29? How many times should we assume the stars fall from heaven, in any sense? Both accounts involve that...