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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    If you are going to use this as an argument, you then need to provide that statement in question and a link to it so we can see that statement in context.
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Jesus could be meaning that spiritually, meaning He is warning about falling away, and that He is using first century Jewish language to make His point. After all, if the AOD is involving 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and the 42 month reign of the beast like I take it be involving, it's not like none of...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Speaking for myself I have zero dispute with any of this. This describes you to a T and that I truly wish I could be more like you in that regard. I probably could be if we were having these conversations orally face to face. I think I have told you in that past that when I type I only using...
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    A discussion I just had recently with Chatgpt involving Daniel 7.

    Here's something else I recently gave to Chatgpt to chew on. I said the following below, this being in regards to that some interpreters interpreting Matthew 24:21 as a local event already fulfilled 2000 years ago then these same interpreters interpreting Daniel 12:1 as a future event, but not...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    That passage supports what happened in the first century leading up to 70 AD. Matthew 24:15-21 does not support that. And the reason why is because Daniel 12:1-2 does not support that. A lot of interpreters come to conclusions without actually thinking through it first. And then when you try...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Except we do know when it starts and ends. It begins with the AOD. It ends with the beginning of the day of the Lord. Some interpreters insist the AOD was involving the 2nd temple before it was destroyed, except they all can't agree with each other what that AOD looked like, which then raises a...
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    Was Jerusalem "Babylon the Great" 2,000 years ago?

    I wish I could borrow your mind sometime, because you bring up some of the most interesting questions that never cross my mind. You indeed think outside of the box, something I like to do as well, except I tend to think you might be better at it than I think I am. To answer your question, was...
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    Was Jerusalem "Babylon the Great" 2,000 years ago?

    Convincing post about what? Since when is anyone in Babylon repentant? Since when was David not repentant? To be in Babylon, for one thing, means to never be repentant. David, while responsible for Uriah’s death, was still aligned with God’s purposes, unlike those who align themselves with...
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    Was Jerusalem "Babylon the Great" 2,000 years ago?

    You have to keep in mind Babylon is portrayed as unrepentant, defiant, and continuously engaged in the shedding of innocent blood. Does that fit David throughout his life? No. He was repentant and God eventually forgave him. But he had consequences for his actions to pay in the meantime, such as...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    When it comes to reading Matthew 25:31-47, do you perhaps have reading comprehension or something? Can you not see that the goats all answer Jesus in the same manner? Let's take Cain for example. Clearly he would be among the lost. Matthew 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    You are the type to have quick answers for everything. Which then tells me you don't even take the time to consider something first. You have your theology all mapped out apparently, nothing to rethink, nothing to revise. That's not the way my mind operates. Sometimes we need to stand back for a...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    What makes you think I even think the sheep and goats judgment and the great white throne judgment are the same judgment to begin with? Because I clearly don't. Therefore, per my perspective this point is moot. Who the sheep are meaning is easy to figure out. It's the goats, that most...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    I don't know if that makes him nuts, but I do fully agree He went to sheol for three days and took captive the captives there. But not to the portion involving torments. He didn't go there and be subject to being tormented. As long as you're not meaning that section, I still fully agree with you.
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    No way do I hate a brother in Christ, period. It is not acceptable to get to that point, ever. Some may have got to that point for all I know. Not meaning anyone in particular. Just meaning in general. But I never will, ever. I don't know what I was thinking when I made that post? It was just...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    There is also the possibility that Jesus ultimately meant the following since He would obviously be familiar with that prophecy. Ezekiel 38:20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the...
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    The 6th seal great tribulation

    Granted, He didn't mention the day of the Lord, of course. But that doesn't matter since He didn't need to. The day of the Lord is associated with a time of darkness, exactly what Matthew 24:29 is depicting. Compare the following, for example. Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    What then happened with this Brother Mike you were to pray for? BTW, I don't get the connection with Jesus and Twilight Zone music? That sounds demonic not something that would be associated with Jesus. After all, that program was not a Christian program or something, nor a program Christ might...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    In some cases, obviously it is only meaning His disciples He was speaking to at the time. Such as the following, for example. Matthew 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    The post you quoted in your post, what is it that he said that wreaks of venom and hatred according to you? If anything wreaks of venom and hatred it would be anyone insisting, that unless you believe Pretrib is true, you won't be included in the rapture. Where does Paul ever say that anywhere...
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    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    Exactly. Except many don't get that. Some think Jesus couldn't see past the first century and 70 AD in the Discourse, therefore, they conclude all these pronouns are only involving just the disciples He was speaking to at the time and those alive at the time. But then you have other views...