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If Jesus is on the earth at the time, why do the 2Ws need to ascend to heaven? Jesus wouldn't even be there per this scenario. So much for any of the following being literally true if anyone leaves Jesus presence after He has returned, rather than continuing in His presence after He has...

There is such a thing as delegates that can do that for each nation involved. But let's just pretend it is literally meaning every single person on the planet, that way the absurdity of such a thing as that alone disproves Premil. When is the last time you ever heard of, for example, the USA...

In your mind only, is the debate already over. In my view, assuming there is a future millennium, it won't be about salvation since everyone that it to be eternally saved will already be so before the millennium begins. What then is the point of a future millennium, right? One point can maybe...

You're thinking on this is way out in left field. You're thinking on this a bit disturbing, actually. Why don't you start reading more carefully what some of the texts involved says and then begin using better discernment? For example, the following. Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto...

Hmmmm...You agree satan is not a created being? After all, you found his post to be great and he did say in that post satan is not a created being, did he not? Which either means God didn't create satan after all, that maybe satan has always existed the same way God has always existed? Or it...

I don't know if you are correct or not, but there appears to be numerous people who take the sea in the literal sense, that it means a literal body of water. Except some of what is recorded in Ezekiel 47 contradicts that. There is still a sea per Ezekiel 47 and that Ezekiel 47 is obviously...

Can you not read and comprehend what Ezekiel 47:12 plainly says? What do you take this to mean---neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed? Do you take that to mean no one ever eats of it, thus it is never consumed? Surely not. Surely then, it means the reason it is not consumed is because...

That means you are an Amil then since that is exactly what they believe as well.

Guess what? I already agree with you about what you submitted, even before you submitted it. I don't have a dispute with any of that. And I also don't agree with some Premils that this there will be this 3rd temple where animal sacrificing resumes. But even so, I still have to wonder why some of...

Consider the following. It is raining cats and dogs outside. Even though the cats and dogs part is obviously not literal, the raining outside is obviously literal. You seem to think if something isn't literal nothing is literal. If that was true why is the raining outside literal while the cats...

Here is a question some of us need to be asking ourselves, including me. There are 9 chapters devoted to this temple. Why then would what you brought up be the only thing in these 9 chapters that are true, thus are fulfilled, while everything else is not true, thus not fulfilled? I wish I had an...

Does this mean that you disagree that Jesus is meant in Revelation 19:15? If it wasn't already clear that Jesus is meant in verse 15, verse 16 makes it crystal clear that He is meant in verse 15. And verse 15 says he shall rule them with a rod of iron. Exactly what Revelation 12:5 says about...

Do you mean that long chain that is long as the world is round or maybe even longer? If satan can walk about and devour someone in the USA and also walk about and devour someone in Japan, I would say that's a pretty long chain tied to that dog. 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your...

Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up(harpazo) unto God, and to his throne. What about this verse then? How do you interpret this?

You lost me here. What nations did He gather together and then fight against at the time? Where can I read about this in the Bible or in any ancient history records? Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle ; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled...

Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the...

So much for Pretrib, right? One can't even put on immortality until the last trump. The last trump couldn't possibly be meaning before great tribulation, though. Then you have all these Pretribbers ascending to heaven in mortal bodies since they can't be immortal bodies if one can't obtain one...

You might be misunderstanding his post since he is Amil and is arguing against, not for, a future millennium? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something here for all I know?

Can you explain the following if a real place is not meant by the pit? Luke 8:31 And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep(abussos). This verse uses the very same Greek word that the book of Revelation uses for the pit, abussos. What is it about the deep...

And if the pit is the entire world, what is it supposed to mean when satan is no longer in the pit? That he is no longer in the world? But if he still in the world the logic per this scenario would have to be that he is still bound in the pit, right? Per Amil logic I guess we are all bound in...