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  1. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    I'm not relying on God's Word? LOL! You literally said Peter is not part of the ekklesia, because, no, he will rule over the 12 tribes, but, also, Israel was called the ekklesia. Why would Paul be lying just because something was given to him by revelation? Remember also that he says he got it...
  2. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    The people here have no taste for truth--it is detestable to them.
  3. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Correction : THIS ISSUE is simple... there are other issues, especially justification, that are basically impossibly difficult that make you have to pray. At least that's how it is for me--and, apparently, others also find that difficult bc men have debated it basically since the founding of...
  4. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    It really is simple. No need for the overly complex web of insanity he has spun.
  5. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Yes, Peter describes the Church as God's house, and so does Paul. Jerusalem was the place where God dwelt on earth; now, New Jerusalem is the new place God dwells on earth--in all believers who have the Holy Spirit.
  6. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    But not true of Jews who are in the "remnant of Israel Church"? Why did Paul say Peter lived like a Gentile (Galatians 2) when Peter was making Gentiles live like Jews (even some were getting circumcised), showing him his hypocrisy? Why was Peter told to eat unclean food--then went and ate with...
  7. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    1. Again, Deuteronomy 32:21 says because they chose another god, so He chooses another people--to say that He chooses the same people to make them jealous is like saying they chose the same God, not another god, and that made God jealous. It makes no sense--it is nonsense, not sound doctrine. 2...
  8. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    How are they "remnant of Israel Gentiles" when you say the mechanism for anyone joining the remnant of Israel is "Peter's Gospel", but Paul says "I magnify MY ministry to you Gentiles"?
  9. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    No, it's even weirder--in his schema, the mechanism whereby a Jew or a Gentile becomes "remnant of Israel Church" is Peter's Gospel, but the mechanism whereby a Jew or a Gentile becomes "body of Christ Church" is Paul's Gospel! (?) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He thinks Paul's Gospel is...
  10. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    OOPS! Galatians 3 1You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? 2This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? 3Are you so foolish? Having...
  11. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Yeah, foaming at the mouth, schizophrenic ranting detail.
  12. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    It really is a hell of a lot of work talking with you. I have to do your side of the conversation, too. The fact that the Jewish believers are free from their obligation to serve by the Law proves they have died (Ro 7:1). How did they die? "Through the body of Messiah" : they are the body of...
  13. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    As has already been explained to you (but you never pay sufficient attention--you're completely lost in your own "Muppet Babies" world, apparently), Paul is citing Deuteronomy 32:21 when he says he wants to move his people to jealousy by magnifying his ministry to the Gentiles Deuteronomy...
  14. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    All believers are "in Christ"--whether they are the remnant of the nation of Israel (Ro 11:5), or the remnants of other nations.
  15. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    I am showing you the more reasonable reading : the Gentile believers Paul addresses in the Epistle to the Romans (eg, 11:13) are literally the Gentile believers in the audience in the Roman Church. LOL! I mean, my goodness, man, how far out there do you have to be to go out of your way to deny...
  16. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Yeah, Jesus brings God's Kingdom to earth--we only have the spirit of adoption, but we are waiting in hope for the adoption of the body, so, also, the Kingdom was brought spiritually, and, later, it will be brought physically, and those who live faithful to the King and His Kingdom now will...
  17. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    I already did--several times--Romans 11:17-22, for instance.
  18. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Why would you quote Acts 3 for explaining national salvation at Christ's return? Literally, many INDIVIDUALS in the crowd repent and are saved, and many don't. You are mixed up. Except that Jesus told the Apostles to go teach the nations so that they will observe all things He taught, so those...
  19. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Realize that when you imagine Paul would be excluded from your imaginary "church the believing remnant", you are utterly without reason or grounding in reality : Paul is both an Israelite, and is of the remnant of Israel which God is saving/preserving by Grace. Romans 11 ESV 1I ask, then, has...
  20. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    But Jesus said "Your Kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven", so God's Heavenly Kingdom is coming to earth, so there's no division between God's Kingdom on earth and God's Kingdom in heaven, so why are you saying these things? What are you doing? Why are you making such a...