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@marks I have spent huge amounts of my time on Romans 6 7 & 8 and written about them. My old Bible is full of underlines and notes on those chapters! It is my favourite part of the Bible and sorely misunderstood by those who think Paul is described in chapter 7 as a Pharisee, or for Calvinists...

I know that you do not identify as a Calvinist @marks, but you are holding to one of their dogmas OSAS. Yeah, me too. I am still working though some things. Born again yes but again, changed position from the usual one, that coming to Christ means we are born again. I dispute it because we...

Trump is not against abortion.

Trump is controlled opposition.

Not getting into original sin atm.

I see some of the problem here, is that one side think that Arminian theology, says that all who are NOSAS think they could come at any time they like and turn to Christ and so believe in works salvation. But I do not believe in this idea, I think that God has an appointed time for each man who...

Yes there are verses to back up each side and it is not as clear cut as we would like. There is the keeping us, preserving us, in that state of having the inheritance, that is possible without us losing our free will to leave, in the way that scripture warns repeatedly about. There is a balance...

The inheritance of purity is for this life. Scripture says on many occasions that we are given a pure heart - in this life, and many prayers in the OT are exactly for that. You are making the mistake of thinking that just because it is reserved in heaven (heavenly places) that cancel out all of...

Please stop messing my thread up . Back to you in the morning (UK time) @marks.

To remain saved, what is required is to submit to Christ living His life through us. This will produce the fruit of the Spirit and absolute obedience. The soul that sinneth, it shall die, has always been the spiritual law. Anything that is works of the flesh cannot abide in this realm...

Okay @marks I will get back on that portion of scripture but not today (no tired smilies!)

@marks I think that the reason I have not been training myself on the OSAS issue, is that I no longer agree about when a person is saved as in evangelicalism. I say that a person is saved when he is delivered from sin, not positionally but actually. Then he is walking in the Spirit but he can...

Donald Trump = controlled opposition.

The thing is, I became Christian in the first place because I value truth. And that has never changed. Amen to that! Me too. marks, think about it, which doctrine is more likely to be a demonic one: that you are saved whatever you do afterwards, or that obedience is necessary or you are in...

His death opened the entrance into paradise again for man to eat of the tree of life there again.

Paradise is what was lost.

10And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still...

There were only two types of trees for food in Eden not four. Life or death (spiritual) The saved and the not saved. @Episkopos John, who else has taught this or are you the first one after 2,000 to know it? Two or three witnesses required.

This speaks of a "thing" to come, not a person, not Jesus, as some suppose. (Johann) The clue to what the perfect is I believe found here: 1 Cor 13:9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when the perfect comes, the partial passes away. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child...