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:IDK: All this bickering just because I simply asked, "Please give Bible references to back up that claim" (post #652). Please let's stop the bickering! :p Yep, it is! And yet I had to ask for Bible references. :) Well I asked for references that would back up your claim, but the references...

Correction - the answer is three. Jesus, Adam and Eve. What you said was ridiculous, and what I said was not ridiculous, was to give Bible references to back up or confirm what you claim. Hence I said, "If you want to convince anybody that what you are saying is the correct interpretation of...

No! The answer is one - Jesus! That doesn't say that Jesus was never not in existence, it just says he was in existence before Abraham was born. Again, that doesn't say that Jesus was never not in existence, it just says he was in existence before the creation of the Earth. So I'm afraid you...

God was involved because Jesus did not have a human father. Please give Bible references to back up that claim. Proverbs 8:22-31, applied to Jesus, tells us of Jesus' beginning (WEB): (22) “Yahweh possessed me in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old. (23) I was set up from...

If the "frame of reference" is "Jesus being raised bodily", how is it changing the "frame of reference" if I ask you for Bible references for where it says Jesus was raised bodily?

Well you asked me where it states that Jesus was resurrected with a spirit nature, so I asked where it states that Jesus was resurrected with a human nature. That's not changing the frame of reference. You didn't answer my question, so I'll answer yours. 1 John 3:2 says that after our...

And on many of those occasions he would appear and disappear out of and into thin air, or have a different physical appearance so that they didn't recognise him, e.g. : Luke 24:31 (WEB): (31) Their eyes were opened, and they recognized him, and he vanished out of their sight. Luke 24:35-36...

:IDK: As I said, "I've said enough on this subject". Just repeating over and over what you've already posted is not helpful. It makes me think that you didn't take any notice of some verses I quoted in post #1769: 1 Timothy 6:3-5 (WEB): (3) If anyone teaches a different doctrine, and doesn’t...

From the Cambridge Bible Notes for Luke 3:7 - broods of vipers "described the venomous hypocrisy which turned religion itself into a vice, and hid a deadly malice under the glittering semblance of a zeal for orthodoxy. But let it be borne in mind that only teachers of transcendent holiness, and...

From the Online Bible Greek Lexicon, aion "is usually better expressed by age, it is the world at a given time, a particular period in the world’s history". From the beginning of the ages/worlds, or the beginning of God's creation.

The following post was posted before I started posting on Christianity Board, but many current posters would benefit from reading it - A Call for Calm.

In return I will ask, what verse says that Jesus was resurrected as a human? Jesus is in heaven, sat at the right hand of God, and no human can exist in heaven. As the apostle Paul said, in 1 Corinthians 15 (WEB): (50) Now I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood can’t inherit God’s...

You're digressing again! Yes, I believe what Peter said. Yes, I do. You're wrong. I do believe what Jesus said. He was a man - he had been from his human birth right up until his death. Since his resurrection he has not been a man; he is now a spirit being having the same divine nature...

That has been covered earlier in this thread/discussion (see A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians - post #230), so I won't go over that again. John also didn't write "Jesus is the Christ, and is God". Why didn't he write that if that is what he believed? Could it be that your assumption is...

I like your post, but who was/is Martin?

John did not believe that Jesus was God. He clearly states, John 20:31 (WEB): (31) but these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in his name. Being a son of God does not make you God. Even Satan was a son of God...

Hebrews 1:2 clearly says that God made the worlds though His Son, or as the KJV translates it "by whom also he made the worlds". Verses 8-10 clearly show God saying that His Son, Jesus, "in the beginning, laid the foundation of the earth" and that the heavens were the work of Jesus' hands. It...

Jesus existed in heaven before God changed his nature to be human - John 6 (WEB): (38) For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me. (46) Not that anyone has seen the Father, except he who is from God. He has seen the Father. (51) I am the living...

I merely quoted the words of Jesus. Believe him, or don't. It's your choice. The Jews thought that Jesus claiming to be God's Son (which he was) made him equal, as in similar, to God. They didn't think that it meant that he was God. Why would they? That's not what Jesus claimed - he simply...

John 18:37 (WEB): (37) ... For this reason I have been born, and for this reason I have come into the world, that I should testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.” John 17:3 (WEB): (3) This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him...