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  1. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Israel/Canaan was the promised Land for the Jews; I believe Christ is the antitype, because "being found in Him not having a righteousness of my own from the Law but a righteousness from God based on faith in Christ", or "walking in the spirit", because "this is the promise He has given us, even...
  2. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Colossians 2:18 Such a person is puffed up without basis by his unspiritual mind.
  3. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    He grafted Gentiles into the wild olive tree? LOL Bro, I'm not even going to read the rest of your mess. Why would God need to graft Gentiles into wild olive trees? The wild olive trees REPRESENT Gentile nations! Which "Gentiles"? The same Gentiles who are not the people who broke Covenant...
  4. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Leviticus 18 "therefore the land vomits out its inhabitants" Revelation 3 "I will vomit you out of My mouth"
  5. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    You keep moving the goalposts. The issue isn't whether anyone (Gentile or Jew) can be cut off. The issue is the language he uses debunks your ignorance--wild olive tree branches are grafted contrary to nature into the cultivated olive tree, but "how much more" will the natural olive tree...
  6. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    It's the already-but-not-yet paradigm : on one level, we're already bearing fruit for God with Christ (Ro 7:4); on another level, we are still waiting for the wedding. We already have the spirit of adoption, but we have not yet had the adoption of the body, but we eagerly await it (Ro 8). "The...
  7. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    The body of Christ is His bride (the one mentioned in Revelation). Just as Adam's bride was his own body, "bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh". Read Ephesians 5, where it draws the parallel between the relationship of a husband and wife and Christ and the Church. No man hates his own body, but...
  8. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    You agreed He dwells in New Jerusalem by His Spirit. God dwells in us. We are New Jerusalem.
  9. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    How does this argument do anything to address or debunk anything I stated about the Church being Christ's own body and bride?
  10. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    If they were "Gentiles" who were "of the remnant of Israel" (LOL!), he would use the same language as he used of the branches that had been broken off from THEIR OWN olive tree, which they are native to--that they were being grafted back in--but, as we see, he describes these Gentile believers...
  11. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    He's really sounding like a "Black Hebrew Israelite"--literally the dumbest, most bereft, emotion-based, system ever created--as far as I can tell. He hasn't clarified. Maybe he was influenced by them, but isn't, himself, one. IDK
  12. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    @Doug Keep pushing, keep being recalcitrant, so you can get tuned up in front of everyone. There isn't a point you have raised that hasn't been thoroughly debunked; the same will apply with every other objection you raise. Keep it up, you're helping everyone see how incoherent your view is.
  13. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Nope, or else he wouldn't have said he was trying to fulfill Dt 32:21 in magnifying his ministry to the Gentiles (Ro 11)--the prophecy is that God's people had made God jealous by choosing another God, and, so, in like manner, God would make those very same people (who had made Him jealous)...
  14. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    LOL Christ is the antitype of the promised land, or else He wouldn't have warned "I will vomit you out of My mouth". Anyway, guy, you mean well, but you don't know your left hand from your right as far as Scripture goes.
  15. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Right, the bride is the dwelling place of God, and we are the dwelling place of God, and we must clothe ourselves with good deeds, or else we will walk naked, and men see the shame of our nakedness, and we will be thrown out, vomited out of the promised Land.
  16. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Nope, it's talking about the wedding banquet, and I don't think you took the time to glance at the other verses I raised. The bottom line is you have, in your approach, a bunch of scattered verses, none of which cohere with one another, whereas looking at them in a holistic sense, as I do...
  17. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    LOL The "bride" is New Jerusalem. What was "Jerusalem" known for being? The dwelling place of God : Revelation 21: 2I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying...
  18. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Right, and I showed you that WE ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD. What was in "Jerusalem"? God's Temple. I also showed you "from Revelation" that the Bride clothes herself, and her clothing is the righteous deeds of the saints : the fact that the Bride clothes herself with good deeds, and these good deeds...
  19. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Bring a substantive response, not an empty one--PROVE that I have erred in understanding the verses I cited that prove my view.
  20. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Persuaded by Scripture--the Scripture which you insist on rebelling against.