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  1. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Google : People are called "trolls" online because they engage in "trolling" behavior, which involves intentionally antagonizing others with inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments. It is hard to believe you're not being a troll because discussion with you is so terrible, of such a low...
  2. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    You complained, to Lizbeth, that "God showed Abraham a land not an allegory" just because she said the land was an allegory for something else (of course, I think she meant it was a type)--what I responded was that, based on the precedent in Galatians 4, it is NOT a denial of the physical...
  3. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    LOL! The remnant of Israel is not the body of Christ? Is Paul the remnant of Israel? Yes? Well, what is he doing being "crucified with Christ"? He is sharing in the death and resurrection of Christ because he is part of the body of Christ. Why is he doing that if "the remnant of Israel is not...
  4. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    It really shows disrespect when you thoughtlessly shoot off empty answers rather than tracing the conversation back and understanding what you are responding to. It also demonstrates your folly. Proverbs 18:13If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame.
  5. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    The Gentiles of Romans 11 aren't "remnant of Israel Gentiles", because, if that were the case, Paul, who seeks to be part of fulfilling Deuteronomy 32:21 (Ro 11:13), would not be able to drive his fellow countrymen (other Israelites) to jealousy : the Israelites drove God to jealousy by choosing...
  6. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Right--in contrast to your assertion that these Gentiles were "remnant of Israel Gentiles".
  7. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    What a joke! I've endlessly cited the Word, and I'm 100% certain of the correctness of my view--you are the one who is deciding to reject what is plain.
  8. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Oh OK I misunderstood.
  9. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    You can mock the teaching that those who are in Adam are doomed all you want--call it "an oops", or what ever--but what you can't do is actually address the text, because you know it disagrees with you, and you prefer your own ideas over God's, and God's Word makes you mad, because it isn't your...
  10. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    If I can achieve the making of the same empty assertion as you, does it mean I'm right? Let's see : "The reason you don't see thing the way I see them is because you're immature." Did it work? Am I right? LOL
  11. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    LOL! You REALLY need to reread Romans. 1. Anyone who is not "in Christ" is "in Adam", thus condemned to the curse of death which Christ defeated--the Jews aren't going to have a New Heart, but still be cursed sinners in Adam. 2. You want to act as though the two are mutually exclusive, but there...
  12. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    1a. The Scripture doesn't say Eve was fashioned from Adam's "rib", but came from his "side". 1b. Yeah, when it says we're "in Christ", that is true : the body of Christ, Christ's body and bride, is Christ's body, thus we're in Him by being in His body, His bride. 2. LOL "No, 1 + 1 does not...
  13. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    You must write off the top of your head every time you write, because you are wrong about everything you assert. Why would you do that? Just uncarefully say things? Say things with uncertainty?
  14. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    The Gentiles referred to in Romans 11 who are grafted in through faith are honest-to-goodness non-Israel human beings who are cut off from their wild olive trees, and grafted in to the cultivated olive tree. They are not "remnant of Israel Gentiles".
  15. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    There are two Israels. "Not all Israel is Israel". There is a physical Israel, which is in unbelief, though a remnant thereof has been saved, and then there is another Israel, which is the Israel God promises "all Israel will be saved". Paul says in Galatians 6 "the Israel of God"--in...
  16. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    You're a troll right?
  17. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Paul says Abraham and his two wives, Hagar and Sarah, allegorically refer to the two Covenants (Gal 4:21-31). Does that mean Paul is teaching that Abraham and his wives never existed? LOL Of course not. Complain to Paul, not to @Lizbeth.
  18. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    LOL What part of "one new man" don't you understand? All of it, I guess.
  19. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    1. If the "Gentiles" referred to, here, were native to the cultivated tree, Paul would not say they are being grafted in "contrary to nature". he would say "how much more then can these branches be grafted in to their own tree?" 2. Also, again, saying the Gentiles referred to here are the same...
  20. GracePeace

    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Yep. 1 Co 10, which you cited, makes the comparison.